Distasteful or art? (Warning - graphic photo)

[Siejones]

You asked what WE think. Not whether we care what you think. You got exactly what you asked for. The truth as we saw it. There is no right or wrong here ... just different tastes of your image.

AND, if you re-read my first comment which you can see is NOT edited in any way ... my first words were ... "In my opinion "

My opinion NOW ... is that you were too easily offended and have gone onto the defensive after hearing things you didn't want to hear.

Here's a tip ... if you can't handle what others think (which is only their subjective opinion anyhow) ... don't ask for their opinions.


I looked at those examples you put up ... dead gull , dead horse. Both black and white to convey the death more creatively and both taken from a more creative angle. Again, just my opinion ... but again ... you asked!

Now we are getting offensive!

Yes black and white would make all the difference and nothing would have been said then. They are both from above...how's that more creative than my above shot? The slight angle.....oooohh I see

Nevermind....

[AcadieLibre]

You are taking what we are pointing out as offensive, it is not offensive to me I am not that sensitive but you need to take the whole of the forum community into consideration. You then post in show your photo and not in the critique section then ask for opinions, unlike Marko I am willing to oblige. If your going to get so easily offended you are right you might have been mistaken but not for the reasons you think. Post in the critique section if you want critique, be considerate of others and take critique as it is meant to be, critiquing your work. It does not shock, nor is it morbid, as I mentioned in my other post just a poorly done shot. Anyway all I will say on this, if you plan on being a photographer you better be able to take far more harsh criticisms than we have said.

[Mad Aussie]

Now we are getting offensive!

Yes black and white would make all the difference and nothing would have been said then.

Nevermind....

You have a thing with 'offensive' it seems. Obviously (in my opinion), you are beyond reasonable discussion and have chosen to elevate the discussion to places it need not have gone.

If you come here with preconceived views and inflexibility towards your images then why ask anyhow about them?

And making your image black and white may have helped a little but would not have satisfied my view that your image lacked creative composition.

[Siejones]

You are taking what we are pointing out as offensive, it is not offensive to me I am not that sensitive but you need to take the whole of the forum community into consideration. You then post in show your photo and not in the critique section then ask for opinions, unlike Marko I am willing to oblige. If your going to get so easily offended you are right you might have been mistaken but not for the reasons you think. Post in the critique section if you want critique, be considerate of others and take critique as it is meant to be, critiquing your work. It does not shock, nor is it morbid, as I mentioned in my other post just a poorly done shot. Anyway all I will say on this, if you plan on being a photographer you better be able to take far more harsh criticisms than we have said.

I asked for an opinion on wether such a morbid subject could be distastful or art using the picture as an example. At which point did I ask for critique?

If I want to become a photographer? Wow now we are being offensive. Cheeky! Presumably I am a beginner compared to you? Maybe you should compare my work to some of your own.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/siejones/

I already have and have made my conclusions.

[Siejones]

You have a thing with 'offensive' it seems. Obviously (in my opinion), you are beyond reasonable discussion and have chosen to elevate the discussion to places it need not have gone.

If you come here with preconceived views and inflexibility towards your images then why ask anyhow about them?

And making your image black and white may have helped a little but would not have satisfied my view that your image lacked creative composition.

Yes the slight angle change the "master" photographer eliot porter chose would have made all the difference.

Yes I am upset and offended because what I am hearing is just feable excuses for utter nonsence. Of coarse you wouldn't slate a renowned master photographers work but your excuses for comparsions are very very weak.

[Mad Aussie]

I was going to try diffuse the situation now but then I went back to post 1 to confirm your wording. A childish reaction sits there now.

VERY nice shot of a squirrel though.

And I never said Elliots work impressed me. It doesn't.

[Barefoot]

[Siejones]

I was going to try diffuse the situation now but then I went back to post 1 to confirm your wording. A childish reaction sits there now.

VERY nice shot of a squirrel though.

And I never said Elliots work impressed me. It doesn't.

A childish reaction or an attempt to stop the escalation of offended people? Your attempt to diffuse is to point out I am childish. This is just getting better and better.

[Mad Aussie]

Put your popcorn away Barefoot I'm done wasting effort on someone who thinks they have nothing to learn and want to be abusive about it. I'd be better off going and making a website called www.onlymyopinionmatters.com for guys like SJ there.

[Siejones]

Put your popcorn away Barefoot I'm done wasting effort on someone who thinks they have nothing to learn and want to be abusive about it. I'd be better off going and making a website called www.onlymyopinionmatters.com for guys like SJ there.

At what point did I say that my opinion was all that mattered? Please note who gets offensive first and how much more offensive they are. This post as an example.

I give my opinions in return and you don't like it so go on the attack.

Well considering you live on this forum it's probably not wise not make an enemy of you so that's pretty much it for me on here I suppose. Shame really there are not many good forum's out there. It only takes one to ruin it for everyone.