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This is a discussion on Olympics within the Off topic forum forums, part of the General category; I was against the stupid thing from the get go, but hey it's sports right? Dating clear back to Christians ...

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    I was against the stupid thing from the get go, but hey it's sports right? Dating clear back to Christians and lions! well here's a couple of articles I just received re the games.

    Vancouver's Olympics head for disaster

    Two weeks before the games and with police officers on every corner, Vancouver is far from an Olympic wonderland

    Douglas Haddow, Guardian UK
    Vancouver's Olympics are heading for disaster | Douglas Haddow | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    It's now two weeks until the start of the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympic games, a city-defining event that is a decade in the making. But a decade is a very long time. Much of what seemed sensible in the early 2000s has proven to be the opposite: for instance, allowing investment bankers to pursue profits willy-nilly was acceptable when Vancouver won the bid in 2003, but is now viewed as idiotic. So it comes as no surprise that just days before the opening ceremony, Vancouver is gripped by dread. Not the typical attitude for a host city, but understandable when you consider that everything that could go wrong, is in the process of going wrong.

    Vancouver has been continually ranked as the world's most livable city. An Olympic sized-dose of gentrification would only serve to speed up Vancouver's transformation from a livable yet expensive city into a glitzy hotel for international capital. But these neoliberal dreams are now little more than fantasy. In the mid-2000s the games were originally slated to cost a pittance of $660m and bring in a profit of $10bn. This ludicrous projection was made before the market crash – an event that the Vancouver's Olympic committee failed to anticipate.

    "The Bailout Games" have already been labelled a staggering financial disaster. While the complete costs are still unknown, the Vancouver and British Columbian governments have hinted at what's to come by cancelling 2400 surgeries, laying off 233 government employees, 800 teachers and recommending the closure of 14 schools. It might be enough to make one cynical, but luckily every inch of the city is now coated with advertisements that feature smiley people enjoying the products of the event's gracious sponsors.

    Conservative estimates now speculate that the games will cost upwards of $6bn, with little chance of a return. This titanic act of fiscal malfeasance includes a security force that was originally budgeted at $175m, but has since inflated to $900m. With more than 15,000 members, it's the largest military presence seen in western Canada since the end of the second world war, an appropriate measure only if one imagines al-Qaida are set to descend from the slopes on C2-strapped snowboards. With a police officer on every corner and military helicopters buzzing overhead, Vancouver looks more like post-war Berlin than an Olympic wonderland. Whole sections of the city are off-limits, scores of roads have been shut down, small businesses have been told to close shop and citizens have been instructed to either leave the city or stay indoors to make way for the projected influx of 300,000 visitors.

    Vancouver's Olympic committee has also assumed the role of logo police. Librarians are being commanded to feed McDonald's to children while unauthorised brands have been banned from Olympic venues. Worse yet, they've begun to casually slip clips from Leni Riefenstahl films into their Coldplay-soundtracked promotional videos.

    This manic mix of hype and gloom is a byproduct of the games' utter pointlessness. For those who have been planning their resistance since 2003, Vancouver is about to become the world's premier political stage. It will be the best chance yet for the Olympics to be derailed and exposed as what they are: a corrupt relic of the 20th century that does little more than gut city coffers and line the pockets of developers and investors. If things go pear-shaped and Vancouverites resort to their riotious ways, at least the city will get its money's worth out of that bloated security force and the ensuing spectacle will boost NBC's slumping ratings. After all, the Olympics are primarily a patriotic event, and in the words of the late Howard Zinn, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism".


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    As Olympics near, people in Vancouver are dreading Games

    Dave Zirin, Sports Illustrated

    As Olympics near, people in Vancouver are dreading Games - Dave Zirin - SI.com

    When I arrived in Vancouver, the first thing I noticed was the frowns.

    The International Olympic Committee has leased every sign and billboard in town to broadcast Olympic joy, but they can't purchase people's faces. It's clear that the 2010 Winter Games has made the mood in the bucolic coastal city decidedly overcast. Even the customs police officer checking my passport started grumbling about "$5,000 hockey tickets." Polls released on my first day in Vancouver back up this initial impression. Only 50 percent of residents in British Columbia think the Olympics will be positive and 69 percent said too much money is being spent on the Games.

    "The most striking thing in the poll is that as the Olympics get closer, British Columbians are less likely to see the Games as having a positive impact," said Hamish Marshall, research director for the pollster, Angus Reid. "Conventional wisdom was that as we got closer to the Olympics, people here would get more excited and more supportive." If the global recession hadn't smacked into the planning last year, with corporate sponsors fleeing for the hills, maybe the Vancouver Olympic Committee would be on more solid ground with residents. But public bailouts of Olympic projects have decisively altered the local mood.

    I spoke to Charles, a bus driver, whose good cheer diminished when I asked him about the games. "I just can't believe I wanted this a year ago," he said. "I voted for it in the plebiscite. But now, yes. I'm disillusioned." This disillusion is developing as the financial burden of the Games becomes public. The original cost estimate was $660 million in public money. It's now at an admitted $6 billion and steadily climbing. An early economic impact statement was that the games could bring in $10 billion. Price Waterhouse Coopers just released their own study showing that the total economic impact will be more like $1 billion. In addition, the Olympic Village came in $100 million over budget and had to be bailed out by the city.

    Security was estimated at $175 million and the final cost will exceed $1 billion. These budget overruns are coinciding with drastic cuts to city services. On my first day in town, the cover of the local paper blared cheery news about the Games on the top flap, while a headline announcing the imminent layoff off 800 teachers was much further down the page.

    As a staunch Olympic supporter, a sports reporter from the Globe and Mail said to me, "The optics of cuts in city services alongside Olympic cost overruns are to put it mildly, not good."

    But these aren't just p.r. gaffs to Vancouver residents, particularly on the eastside of the city where homelessness has spiked. Carol Martin who works in the downtown eastside of Vancouver, the most economically impoverished area in all of Canada, made this clear: "The Bid Committee promised that not a single person would be displaced due to the Games, but there are now 3,000 homeless people sleeping on Vancouver's streets and these people are facing increased police harassment as they try to clean the streets in the lead up to the Games."

    I strolled the backstreets of the downtown eastside and police congregate on every corner, trying to hem in a palpable frustration and anger. Anti-Olympic posters wallpaper the neighborhood, creating an alternative universe to the cheery 2010 Games displays by the airport. The Vancouver Olympic Committee has tried to quell the crackling vibe by dispersing tickets to second-tier Olympic events like the luge. It hasn't worked.

    The people of the downtown eastside and beyond are developing a different outlet for their Olympic angst. For the first time in the history of the games, a full-scale protest is being planned to welcome the athletes, tourists, and foreign dignitaries.

    Bringing together a myriad of issues, Vancouver residents have put out an open call for a week of anti-game actions. Different demonstrations on issues ranging from homelessness to indigenous rights have been called. Protesters from London and Russia, site of the next two Olympics will be there. Expect a tent city, expect picket signs, expect aggressive direct actions. Tellingly, according to the latest polls, 40 percent of British Columbia residents support the aims of the protesters, compared to just 13 percent across the rest of Canada. Harsha Walia of the Olympic Resistance Network said, "We are seeing increasing resistance across the country as it becomes more visible how these Games are a big fraud."

    The Games will also coincide with the largest and longest-standing annual march in Vancouver, the Feb. 14 Memorial Women's March meant to call attention to the hundreds of missing and murdered women -- particularly indigenous women -- in British Columbia. The Vancouver Olympic Committee asked the Memorial March organizing if they would change the route of the march for the Olympic Games. As Stella August, one of the organizers with the downtown eastside Power of Women Group, said to me, "We are warriors. We have been doing this for 19 years and we aren't going to bow down to the Olympics."

    One thing is certain: if you are in Vancouver, and competitive curling doesn't get your blood pumping, there will be quite the spectacle outside the arena.





    Something tells me the far-side of this gaming idea is going to hurt

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    I can't believe that the auther dissed curling!!!!

    okay, do you want to hear something funny? I was thinking about the Olympics the other day and this thought crossed my mind: "I wonder why MAW hasn't said anything about it yet? "

    I don't disagree with you. I think that we are getting to the point where such incredible expenditures of money cannot be justified. I would be okay if the money was going to the atheletes but it seems that it's going everywhere but there. Also we have countries like China who enroll thousands of children in special schools just to fuel the quest for gold medals. It can be argued that it works out fine for those that do make it (although I have my doubts that it does long term) but for those who don't they are discarded and it's too late for them to pursue a regular education.

    I would be happy if we just stuck to the various world championships for sports and gave up on this idea of one big venue.
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    I've stayed out of it for two reasons. First I have zero use for sports of any kind and secondly I don't watch telly haven't for going on ten years so I've not been following the money woes of the Olympics. Seven billion dollars could have gone a long way attending to real problems in this city. My feeling now is that we've been had and the fallout from this escapade will border on nasty when all's said and done, but you know me...Always the optimist

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    I hate Curling!

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    Oh man, you suck as a Canadian then M.A. Curling can be very exciting.

    I can't believe the negative attitudes of the above writers (Not the commenting members).

    I love the sports that involve skating and those that involve smoking a joint.

    I think Calgary was one of the first cities that really involved corporate sponsorship on a big level and it really paid off for them with some world class venues. Olympic Plaza continues to be a gathering place to this day giving the downtown area life.

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    You serious? Canadians actually like Curling? I think I can confidently say that I've never met another person who admits to liking that 'sport.'

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    MA curling is a big thing for many Canadians, in farm communities it is a great pastime for many people. All ages can play it and the beer stays cold. I must admit I don't spend anytime watching it but I don't watch any sports. I prefer to go out and do things instead of watch someone else. I've never like team sports mainly because as a kid I was uncoordinated and sucked at them and boys are so kind about that type of thing.

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    When we only had 2 or 3 TV channels back in the day, curling was a regular Saturday afternoon sport on TV in Canada....curling in the afternoon, Hockey Night in Canada in the evening. I've never played, but I don't mind watching it...reminds me of being a kid.
    It's was also a real winter social thing for people up here. Go down to the local curling club in the winter, suck back some beer and sweep a few rocks. Pretty much every town had a local curling rink/club....curling club and a legion!
    I guess you could say it is a part of our heritage...at least I remember it.

    On the Olympic topic...I don't really watch it anymore...too commercialized with ads everywhere and many professional players playing what is/used to be considered an amateur sporting events. It's all about winning/owning the podium and making money now at all/any cost...IMO....just really doesn't interest me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Aussie View Post
    You serious? Canadians actually like Curling? I think I can confidently say that I've never met another person who admits to liking that 'sport.'


    Well let me say that not only do I like curling I do it twice a week!!!

    Husband talked me into it when we moved to the town we live in as a way to meet people. 14 years later, he no longer curls and I'm still at it.

    My definition of curling is that it's where physics meets chaos theory.

    That said it's a lot of fun, low impact and yes, it keeps your drink cold while you play.

    Virtually every town in canada can be guaranteed to have two things: a hockey rink and a curling rink.
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    Wow ... well there you go. This really helps me to understand why Curling is in the Olympics now. It's such a slow, boring to watch sport, but in icy climates I guess it's a vital way to get some sort of exercise for mind and body.

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