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    Hiya my name is Simon.

    I have just started to listen to the podcasts. I had a loooong boring drive yesterday so I hooked my phone up to the stereo and listened to quite a few of the podcasts back to back. I really enjoyed them thanks!

    Anyway needless to say they have lead me here. I am going to be honest here and say I had kind of given up with photography forums. I used to post quite a bit in the big forum's such as "Canon Digital Photography Forums" and "Talk photography" and these were great while I was a wet behind the ears beginner but I have very mixed feelings on them now. There are too many self appointed "experts" giving out (even dictating) what I now know to be duff advice. The problem is that most of this advice is born of rumour rather than experience. It almost seems that there is a theoretical set of photography rules that they learn then dictate to others they should follow. Beginners seem pressured into agreeing to these rules then they themselves dictate them to others. Here's a few I can think of:

    The rule of thirds. (while a very good guideline it is not a rule)
    You must not blow highlights in any part of an image.
    You must freeze the action 100% or you have failed in the image.

    I could go on....

    It's almost as if they have picked up bits and bob's of advice then made a set of rules from them. They are trying to make photography into a logical entity much like a computer is so it is much easier for them to understand. They then critique images using these so called "rules" as if they are the new masters of photography. The most amusing part of this is the worst culprits either have very poor , lifeless work them selves or have nothing to show at all. I think they are called "armchair experts". Something the internet seems to be breeding more and more of.

    Listening to the podcast's I get the impression that this forum will have a correct approach to the artform rather than an example of of the above. I hope I can submit an image here and have the critique from the submitter’s feelings on the image rather than tick box’s from a theoretical rule book.

    Anyway sorry to go off on one there

    I am primarily a landscape photographer but I do enjoy photographing animals and wildlife too. I am happy with my technical ability's but I am struggling to impove my compostions. I think I can see them in the viewfinder but I seem to have a very hard time finding them

    Please don't get the impression I am a moany git
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    Hi Siejones and welcome! Thanks for listening to the podcasts.

    We're a small growing forum and hopefully we are what you are looking for in a forum. We try to be friendly and helpful. Given what irks you as listed below, we may be the right bunch of shutternuts for you.

    The rule of thirds. (while a very good guideline it is not a rule)
    - I agree with that

    You must not blow highlights in any part of an image.
    - This is nonesense IMO. Your focal point IMO should not be blown but the image SHOULD have some blown highlights IMO. Specular light is blown light and adds to an image.

    You must freeze the action 100% or you have failed in the image.
    - This is ridiculous. There's loads of beauty is blurred images when done right.

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    Welcome, Siejones! I look forward to seeing some of your work! Ha ha you gave your nationality away when you said 'moany git'. Hope you enjoy it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marko View Post
    Hi Siejones and welcome! Thanks for listening to the podcasts.

    We're a small growing forum and hopefully we are what you are looking for in a forum. We try to be friendly and helpful. Given what irks you as listed below, we may be the right bunch of shutternuts for you.

    The rule of thirds. (while a very good guideline it is not a rule)
    - I agree with that

    You must not blow highlights in any part of an image.
    - This is nonesense IMO. Your focal point IMO should not be blown but the image SHOULD have some blown highlights IMO. Specular light is blown light and adds to an image.

    You must freeze the action 100% or you have failed in the image.
    - This is ridiculous. There's loads of beauty is blurred images when done right.

    Anywho....lol.... we hope you hang out with us for a while...
    Hi Marko,

    Thanks for the welcome

    This is the kind of reply I was hoping for

    Right now to decide what my first image post will be.

    I do a fair bit of wild camping in the mountains. It's hard going but I can catch first and last light up there. Tommorow I plan to spend a night under the flanks of a mountain called "Cadair Idris". The locals have a saying for it that goes like this "If you spend a night on Cadair Idris you will either go mad, go blind or become a poet. Let's hope it's the last one eh

    Quote Originally Posted by raiven View Post
    Welcome, Siejones! I look forward to seeing some of your work! Ha ha you gave your nationality away when you said 'moany git'. Hope you enjoy it here.
    Thanks Raiven

    Lol I so easily forget I am talking to the rest of the world on the net and our national sayings may seem a little odd to others

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    Welcome to the forum...great bunch of people here and I hope you enjoy yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by casil403 View Post
    Welcome to the forum...great bunch of people here and I hope you enjoy yourself!
    Thanks Casil403
    Poor photos follow no rules, ok photos follow some rules, great photos break some rules, classic photos break all the rules........there are no rules!
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    Welcome to the forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomorrowstreasures View Post
    Welcome to the forum!
    Hi!

    Thanks
    Poor photos follow no rules, ok photos follow some rules, great photos break some rules, classic photos break all the rules........there are no rules!
    Technical perfection is only ever important if it improves the asthetic. It is not the precursor to beauty. Not in art..not in music and not in photography!

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