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This is a discussion on Raptor within the Animals (mammals, birds, insects etc.) forums, part of the Show your photo (Color) - Landscape & Nature (flowers, mountains, storms etc.) category; Hopefully this attaches correctly - (my first attempt). Still not 100% certain, but the consensus seems to be that this ...

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    Hopefully this attaches correctly - (my first attempt). Still not 100% certain, but the consensus seems to be that this is probably a juvenile red-tail:




    Different perspective:



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    Interesting looking bird. Looks like you figured it out just dandy. Thanks for sharing.
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    Great looking bird, I'd be guessing it was a young Red Tail but don't know for sure

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    You have me when it comes to birds. Love the stance and eye on the first one. Like the all wise mom giving me that look

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    Nice Capture Pharaoh.
    It is actually an adult Red-tailed hawk. The belly band of mottling and fairly solid coloured head gives this away. Not to mention the padding on feet is very developed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillbillygirl View Post
    Nice Capture Pharaoh.
    It is actually an adult Red-tailed hawk. The belly band of mottling and fairly solid coloured head gives this away. Not to mention the padding on feet is very developed.
    I was going to ask Michaelaw since I saw his redtail pic... if there were any other identifying methods I got to your post and sounds like you have some knowledge on the subject too.

    I will spare most of the details. We've had about 4-6 hrs. observation of the bird over 3 visits to the area. First observation which was only a tail view on a fence brought suggestions it was a Cooper's or Sharp-shinned. Even if adult, he or she appears IMHO too big to be a Sharp-shinned and as you noticed, the talons appear "developed" much more than any Sharp-shinned examples I've seen.

    I had settled on it being a red-tail, and later a bird enthusiast I talked with gave his final opinion that it was a juvenile red-tail, though as I recall he stated it's white chest and pattern were a dead giveaway. I took that with a grain a salt, as looking through various reference materials / resources, I found white chests not that uncommon amongst a range of hawks.

    I think you guys are right, and red-tails are most common around here (though this a wetland on a migration track that commonly hosts multiple types of raptors). The one "Hmmm" I had was based on observed behavior, this bird had several tendencies of the Northern Harrier.

    I have more pics of the bird (not as detailed) but various other views if those might help(?) I also can give more detail on what we observed that made me wonder.

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    Man you got in nice and close! Very cool.

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    Again, would like to commend you on a very good shot, especially first one with the "hunters glare".
    Very far from a Harrier. They have a smallish head and very owl like round appearance to head actually, when perched. They also have a thin long tail, and body, and no mottled banding on lower abdomen, but grey, or chestnut mottling throughout whole abdomen.
    This is for sure an early adult stage Red-tail hawk. Juveniles have very heavy mottling throughout whole head and abdomen area.
    Definitely not a Sharp-shinned or Coopers for that matter either (no banding on tail that both possess). Too large for sharpie and not even correct colouring or leg/talon size for either, also.
    If you check out my post called "Front Yard Find" you will se a Coopers Hawk, which is a larger version of a Sharpie, with a few subtle differences.
    Hope this helps in your ID'ing.
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    Thanks Hillbillygirl! I'll trust your word on it. Red-tail makes the most sense. Essentially I wondered about the Harrier because with the exception of one instance, it's flight has been very close to the ground / low altitude.

    I've attached some of the garbage we picked up most of which was while s/he was in a restricted area we could not enter - so I apologize in advance as sheer distance has rendered these pretty much useless (but for the sake of appearance):















    The only legitimate shot I got from underneath (as said it has traveled very close to the ground):



    And a couple of the other closer shots I finally made jpeg copies:









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