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AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 10:04 AM

This idea comes from Casil in reply to a post I did. This would take several months to set up but since it is the beginning of June I would search for a weekend day that I hope would have some photographic importance in the end of August to say the beginning of October. If anyone is interested lets see if we can get this idea off the ground. The idea is to put a positive spin on photography and photographers. We should try and hold it in as many places as possible and if we get enough interest I will help and inform people how to get word out, how to organize your town or cities event and whatever other info or help I can provide. I have experience in organizing protests and this will be a positive event so it should be fairly easy to get off the ground. So if anyone is interested let me know here or in PM. We can come up with a catchy name and see about getting some corporate interest and media interest. If Marko was interested we could use his site to promote the event. Anyway we will see if the interest is there. I hope so. So will we have a Shoot In?

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Bambi

06-04-2010, 10:18 AM

I like that idea!

Matt K.

06-04-2010, 10:44 AM

All for it as well

Iguanasan

06-04-2010, 11:19 AM

"Shoot In" doesn't seem catch phrasey enough but I'm in. It would be nice if we associated it with the "Photography is Not a Crime" site as well since that movement has a lot of people. I'll push it around Halifax, Nova Scotia if we can get a plan together.

casil403

06-04-2010, 11:22 AM

I could not be any more IN. Al...feel free to run with the idea however you think is best...you have the experience and I can help out in any way you wish. For me it was just an idea and I am so glad you like the thought and are willing to run with it. :) I am willing to do what it takes to get the Calgary contingent in.
I would like to see this organized in Britain and the States as well as they have far greater issues with photography. Maybe we just start in Canada and see if it catches on....
As for a day...how about a famous (or infamous) street or journalistic photographer's birthday? :)
Anybody who belongs to any clubs, groups, forums...lets start getting the idea out there...start threads and get people talking! :highfive:
We can start a group on flickr too.

Matt K.

06-04-2010, 11:36 AM

casil403

06-04-2010, 11:53 AM

I like "Public Exposure"! :highfive: Good name!

casil403

06-04-2010, 12:49 PM

Another Idea for a date:

Henri Cartier-Bressons birthday is August 22 which this year falls on a Sunday. :)

AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 01:34 PM

I like Public Exposure and Henri Cartier-Bressons birthday would be a perfect day to do it on. Well we have Calgary, Toronto, Halifax onboard so far lets try over the weekend when members stop by if we can get others to join in. It would be "Public Exposure" held on Henri's birthday. I think it should be a go, lets get try and get other members to get involved. Give it the weekend and lets see how many photography.ca members want to be involved and we then can put the whole idea together. I will write Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc. and see if any of them would be interested in becoming involved. I would also write the National Post, Globe and Mail for national exposure and members can write to their local papers to inform them of the event. We can throw out ideas of the next few days and when we have a game plan hopefully by Monday and then put it into play and fine tune it over the next week or two. If members from other countries or cities from the globe want to participate they can, it need not be just a Canuck event but we can start here and see if it carries on to other places. I do not have a Facebook account but I can use my wife's account so if someone familiar with facebook can start a fan page and we can promote it through there also. After I post this I want to look into a few things and will post back if what I want to do is possible.

Grant

06-04-2010, 02:19 PM

I like Public Exposure and Henri Cartier-Bressons birthday

Sorry my funny bone just kicked in as I am visualizing hordes of happy shooters going to the streets in trench coast carrying Leicas. Well as long as I don't have to flash I am up for it as well.

Bambi

06-04-2010, 02:55 PM

Sorry my funny bone just kicked in as I am visualizing hordes of happy shooters going to the streets in trench coast carrying Leicas. Well as long as I don't have to flash I am up for it as well.

lol, as a photographer you are bound by the honour code to 'flash'. :evil2:

Matt K.

06-04-2010, 06:00 PM

I have posted the idea on the Foothills Camera Club website in Calgary, their internal message board/forum thing. Tonight is the annual banquet of the club, and maybe I will corner the president and have him endorse this as well.

There are some pretty good shooters in the club, and we even have our own resident street photographer. :thumbup:

AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 06:02 PM

This is great, I think by Monday we will have some idea of those wanting to be involved. Since Henri is considered by many to be the founder of modern photojournalism it is appropriate for this as the first time we would be holding this event. I will host a website to promote this event if by Monday we have enough people willing to be involved. It will take serious commitment to get the word out for it to be successful. Monday I will get a list of those who will participate and we will make a list of things that would need to be done and how to do this. I am willing to put the time in on my end to see this go and put the serious effort it will take. We can see who will take care of what at the National level and then see who will do what at a local level. Most of anything at the National level I am willing to cover if I can get help to organize the Toronto event. LETS MAKE THIS HAPPEN !!!!!!

JAS_Photo

06-04-2010, 06:50 PM

There is already a public exposure: Public Exposure Showcase (http://www.public-exposure.com/)

Cafe Press has T-Shirts already available:

Photography Is Not A Crime Gifts, T-shirts, Stickers and more - CafePress Canada (http://shop.cafepress.ca/photography-is-not-a-crime)

Henri Cartier Bresson Gifts, T-shirts, Stickers and more - CafePress Canada (http://shop.cafepress.ca/henri-cartier-bresson)

photographer (not terrorist) Black T-Shirt - CafePress Canada (http://www.cafepress.ca/+photographer_not_terrorist_black_tshirt,36969676)

Photographer Dark T-Shirt - CafePress Canada (http://www.cafepress.ca/+photographer_dark_tshirt,394517812)

Revolution Button - CafePress Canada (http://www.cafepress.ca/+revolution_button,28844317)

Or design your own. :)

AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 08:36 PM

Thanks JAS, I like the name but I do not want to cross paths with an existing project. So I think we will have to come up with another name for the project. It is too bad but if your going to do something doesn't matter what you need to brand it and it has to be unique. So we are now looking for a name that is not being used. I was planning on doing searches tomorrow on Public Exposure and I was sure it was used for something but I was hoping it was nothing related to art. So anyone can throw out a name but if you can will you can check if it is being used and for what. I would hold off on telling people the name of the project for now. We may get ahead of ourselves if we do not check out things first, I was a bit ahead of myself on this also. I went to publicexposure.com and .ca and I got dead space so I was going to see if I could register the domain over the weekend for the project and even if I could now I would have to make a choice to pass on it. This is not my decision so of others feel we should still go with public exposure we can but I am a strong believer in branding and if it is being used we need to really reconsider what name we use. It is why I wanted to wait until monday to move forward so we dot all the i's and cross all the t's before throwing it out there so not to confuse the issue. Public exposure is a great name, and had the feel I liked so let me know what you think on it, should we come up with another name or should we go with public exposure still?

casil403

06-04-2010, 08:50 PM

A few other ideas I have for titles:

Focus on Exposure 2010 -no name used when googled
Focal Exposure 2010 - ditto
Exposure Priority 2010 -ditto

Anybody else?:shrug:
We can also change the spelling of Public Exposure too. :)
LoL...I am also wondering if we should nix the idea of using the word "shoot-in" as well. People (especially those in authority) might get the wrong idea of what our intent is. :)

AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 09:02 PM

A few other ideas I have for titles:

Focus on Exposure 2010 -no name used when googled
Focal Exposure 2010 - ditto
Exposure Priority 2010 -ditto

Anybody else?:shrug:
We can also change the spelling of Public Exposure too. :)

I agree, why don't we do this Publik Exposure? I like the name and I think it works, so the idea of changing the spelling of public exposure to maybe publik exposure could work. It does stand out, misspelled words for branding is a good idea we could even go a bit further for the name spelling change. So what do others think?

Even Better Publik Xposure?

casil403

06-04-2010, 09:06 PM

I like the second one..... :)

AcadieLibre

06-04-2010, 10:20 PM

Ok I have given this thought and I think the best way to keep the name and not have it look horrid is Public Xposure. I think we can do something with just getting rid of the e from exposure and keep the same impact the name gives for our purposes. Let me know. It is available and will not confuse our cause with any other art related projects. Let me know, I know its late so Saturday I will check back and if everyone agrees we can run with it.

Iguanasan

06-04-2010, 10:23 PM

I like it! :clap:

casil403

06-04-2010, 10:26 PM

I like this version the best too....go with it! :highfive:
We can start a Facebook page as well and I guess twitter it also.

AcadieLibre

06-05-2010, 12:45 AM

Matt K.

06-05-2010, 03:07 AM

Ok either I made a typo or the whois screwed up but both .com and .ca are taken. I looked and my spelling was right so something was wrong with the whois. We need a name and I think forget the perfectxposure angle and go with something in another area. Way too many variations on Perectxposure so lets go with another name. Check the name here Whois lookup and Domain name search (http://whois.domaintools.com/) so we know the .com is available. Anyway I am off it is getting late here and I am off to read and relax. Decide on a name and I will get it when I get online later. I can get it for free I am owed two domains from a deal I did last summer so it is no cost to me and I can host so it is why I will grab the name. If we want to be taken serious we need a website with a proper domain. So think of name and we will run with it the moment we own the name.

I just did a "whois" on publikxposure.com and it does not exist ...

Whois Server:whois.verisign-grs.comGeneral TLDs:PublikXposure.com (never registered before)PublikXposure.net (never registered before)PublikXposure.org (never registered before)PublikXposure.biz (never registered before)PublikXposure.info (never registered before)PublikXposure.us (never registered before)

Matt K.

06-05-2010, 03:09 AM

Whois Server:whois.verisign-grs.com
General TLDs:Publik-Xposure.com (never registered before)
Publik-Xposure.net (never registered before)
Publik-Xposure.org (never registered before)
Publik-Xposure.biz (never registered before)
Publik-Xposure.info (never registered before)
Publik-Xposure.us (never registered before)

AcadieLibre

06-05-2010, 05:48 AM

We are the proud owners of PublikXposure.com. So go with that as our name. It was available and we all seem like the name and it is a definite standout as far as spelling goes, we may look illiterate but hey is that not what all the kewl kids are doing lmaoooooooo ....... I will get something up there in the next day or two. For anyone getting involved they can have @PublikXposure.com email if you want to keep this separate stuff out of your other emails and it also helps with promotion if those running the events for their location. Next is a logo, so anyone can post an image of a logo suggestion feel free.

Also to cities like Vancouver, Montreal, Edmonton, North Bay, Windsor, Hamilton, etc. we need people to host the events in those cities and any others that have not spoken up please do as we need as many places as we can. Now anyone outside Canada feel free to host and plan an event for your city. The more cities and towns we get the better, so if you live in Montreal, Quebec or Meat Cove, Nova Scotia come join us for this day of public education and information.

casil403

06-05-2010, 06:28 AM

Logo idea...photo of a sign held up that says

"Not terrorists...just hobbyists" and a photo with a camera :laughing:

AcadieLibre

06-05-2010, 06:41 AM

Logo idea...photo of a sign held up that says

"Not terrorists...just hobbyists" and a photo with a camera :laughing:

Oh yes and we need something along what Casil mentioned but we may have to be a tad more inclusive than hobbyists lol.

"We are Photographers Not Criminals" visit us at PublikXposure.com.

Matt K.

06-05-2010, 12:57 PM

Logo idea...photo of a sign held up that says

"Not terrorists...just hobbyists" and a photo with a camera :laughing:

ummm ... should the tilt on this image be from LEFT to right or from RIGHT to left?:evil2:

Matt K.

06-05-2010, 01:03 PM

Maybe something like a traffic sign ... a round disk with a camera in the middle, and the "bar" across the camera indicating a "no photograph zone", then the whole thing with a black wide brushed "X" over it; indicating our position ...

JAS_Photo

06-05-2010, 01:56 PM

Maybe some sort of stencil style font would be cool as well. :)

GASMASK font by Billy Argel - FontSpace (http://www.fontspace.com/billy-argel/gasmask)

Or Grunge style:

http://www.fontspace.com/category/grunge

Just type 'PublikXposure' in the customize space to see what it looks like.

Matt K.

06-05-2010, 02:35 PM

here are some links for other organizations who might want to join the effort;

CAPA - The Canadian Association for Photographic Art (http://www.capacanada.ca/)

Images Alberta Camera Club - Edmonton's Largest Photography Club, Established 1975: Alberta Canada (http://www.imagesalberta.ca/)

Prairie Region of Photographic Arts (http://www.prpa.ca/)

Have not sent anything out yet, I think a well formulated letter could be sent to all clubs/forums/sites inviting them to participate. Any thoughts?

AcadieLibre

06-05-2010, 03:23 PM

Great ideas all, Matt you can get hold of them if you want since it is Regional to you and Casil and she has a fabulously well written letter you might be able to use but you will have to check with her. I will work on a basic site and logo over tonight and tomorrow and will post when I get them done I hope no later than Monday morning.

Marko

06-06-2010, 12:25 PM

I wish i head seen this thread earlier :sad:

anyway - I'd like to help in any way I can and we can surely use this site to promote the idea.

I rarely publicly oppose stuff but imo publikxposure.com is a terrible choice.

Nobody will be able to spell it and when you refer people to the site, you'll have to explain how it's spelled (and they will forget it within 5 seconds...feel free to to a test).... if it gets any press - huge chance the journalist will misspell the name.
- It's actually the number 1 rule on memorable domain names....make sure it's impossible to misspell. This has 2 spelling errors in it.

OBVIOUSLY I'll still lend my support to whatever we do... but i would highly advise against using this name at this early stage. :twocents: If you do decide to take my advice, I have no objection to footing the bill for the domain name (as I feel I should have spotted this thread earlier) even if someone else registers it...

Matt K.

06-06-2010, 12:56 PM

casil403

06-06-2010, 05:58 PM

Our Logo - we could use the mode dial on the camera as our logo...
Something like this with the logo located somewhere in the dial?
Personally I kind of like it...anybody else feel free to run with it to spark other ideas. :)

AcadieLibre

06-06-2010, 06:35 PM

Decide on a name and let me know.

Matt K.

06-06-2010, 09:45 PM

Suggestion for name:

Camera Publica

camerapublica.com is available ...

Marko

06-06-2010, 10:17 PM

Suggestion for name:

Camera Publica

camerapublica.com is available ...

I'm okay with that one!

but there's also camerapublic.com (shorter)

here's a few others
publicphotography.org
publicphotography.net

Matt K.

06-06-2010, 10:36 PM

I'm okay with that one!

but there's also camerapublic.com (shorter)

here's a few others
publicphotography.org
publicphotography.net

well yes, it's shorter by one vowel ... I was thinking in contrast to "camera obscura" ... to stick with the latin .... but I am ok with anything (almost):headslap:

Marko

06-06-2010, 11:51 PM

I'd love it if a few others chimed in to give opinions.:goodvibes

casil403

06-07-2010, 07:48 AM

Honestly I am happy with whatever is decided. For me it is about the whole idea/movement of what we can accomplish by doing this more than the name. :)
This week I really have to hunker down and focus on final exams until Thursday so I am going to let others run with it for now. :thumbup:
My only other suggestion was "Exposure Priority"...a double entendre of sorts.

Marko

06-07-2010, 09:43 AM

exposurepriority.com is also available

need more opinions members....any of these newer ones appeal? if so, which?

many thx!

Bambi

06-07-2010, 10:36 AM

sorry Marko. My brain is not working on this at all. I am open to any of it. However, my suggestions are to
1. pick a name that is not confrontational
2. one that any one can understand

Iguanasan

06-07-2010, 10:44 AM

I was making up a bunch to try and find a good one, my favourite was "focus for freedom" but "freedom" doesn't fit well. I was trying to indicate "freedom" from being picked on just for taking a few pictures plus I was going for the whole FFF alliteration thingy.

casil403

06-07-2010, 01:14 PM

My suggestion is to pick 3 from what we have that is available and do a poll. Either that or we are going to have too many to choose from and no clear consensus on any of them. I also thing you are better able to get a better response by doing a poll. :twocents:

Marko

06-07-2010, 01:35 PM

SOLD -

I'll put up a poll in an hour or two - in the meantime feel free to suggest names that are still available as the poll will only feature names listed in this thread.

many thx - marko

AcadieLibre

06-07-2010, 03:20 PM

I am open to any name, just I am busy and people who are going to be involved need to chime in. I liked the original idea so I am open to any name. Also I think the August date may be unrealistic. What is going to happen at the event itself? Speakers? Everyone bringing a camera? Are we going to get participants to submit photos after the event? What is going to happen at the event?

I am away from home tomorrow morning and not home until Thursday so I was hoping to get the site and logo done by today but we are still stuck on the name which we should have picked by now. So people getting involved know this it will be a lot of work for those helping out and if your going to help you must be serious about it. I want this to happen but I also want it to be successful. I can accept any name but lets pick a name and move on to the rest of the event. The domain I have I can use so it is no issue but we need to get the name picked ASAP. Also we need to think of a date further into the future if a name is not picked by today.

Marko has a Domain and I say just use that name and move ahead with the rest of it. I think also we need to get those involved to have an online meeting in real time. This email and posting to the forum will work once we get the basics of it decided but we might also consider a real time chat for those involved to decide on a few basics. Let me know what you all think and lets get this done and done well.

If I am not available for the next few days it is I just have several meeting at galleries in Quebec about them being me reps and I need to work on that tonight. I am in Quebec City until Wednesday and in Montreal for that night so if we can decide a few things I am hoping to meet with Marko if I can while I am in Montreal so maybe we can hash a a few ideas and post them here.

So in finishing LETS PICK A NAME, lol, they all work on some level and the ones I see here any of them are good and get the message across so it is important we get the name right but it should be the easiest part of all of it.I like the misspelled name, it will catch peoples attention and the only other issue is if we keep posting the names here we need to worry about cyber squatters grabbing it and Marko has paid for one, I have one so one of those two should suffice. I can use the one I have like I mentioned so maybe just go with Marko's pick and go from there. If we do a poll we better buy all 3 because someone may grab as we are trying to decide so I am against the idea of a poll just on that basic premise. If you all want to do a poll go ahead but like I said we better buy all 3 of them just incase.

Marko

06-07-2010, 03:38 PM

Ok the poll is attached -- please vote asap!

The two names that are registered are safe and we can use them - the other choices are not registered so if one is chosen we'll need to register it fast....so please vote asap.

many thx!

Marko

casil403

06-07-2010, 04:04 PM

I also wanted to add this poll is for everybody to vote...not just Canadians...the more input we have the better and from everybody! :highfive:

I also agree with AL that the date might have to get pushed back a bit to perhaps the fall. My vision for this is that we do this right and set an example for the rest of the world and other countries to follow in our footsteps...wouldn't that be absolutely fabulous if we started something...a peaceful and nonviolent template of photographers simply expressing their craft freely, openly and publicly without fear of harassment arrest, threat, harm etc. etc.
Would'n't that be a great example for other countries to follow if we can pull this off and pull this off right?

I have already a few flickr contacts who also think this is a great idea and are willing to get involved.
So please, please get your votes in ASAP so we can start working on this thing and make it successful! :goodvibes

AcadieLibre

06-07-2010, 04:52 PM

wouldn't that be absolutely fabulous if we started something...a peaceful and nonviolent template of photographers simply expressing their craft freely, openly and publicly without fear of harassment arrest, threat, harm etc. etc.

Come on, peaceful? Then what are we going to photograph? Violent clashes with the authourities will get us publicity and media attention and we would also have some really cool ops to photograph. LMAOOOO, just kidding ........

Marko

06-08-2010, 08:19 AM

Just as an FYI, I see this morning the small majority of voters has publicphotography.org in the lead at this time.... so I took the initiative to make that name safe and now that name too is registered.

The poll closes in 2 days so please vote everyone!

Thx - Marko

casil403

06-09-2010, 05:25 PM

After reading Greg_Nuspel's scary thread http://www.photography.ca/Forums/f15/photographers-rights-wrongs-9986.html
I think this is more important that ever that we stand up and be counted as photographers and not criminals.:eek:
One more day for your input on the poll so please vote. :fingerscr

kat

06-09-2010, 05:37 PM

Hi. I've been reading this. I've voted on the name I liked. I'll add my 2 cents once I know enough to add it! lol

But I would like to mention that my other half..well..all he does all day is logo creation and stuff. So if you need a hand on that aspect I'll volunteer him.

Keep it up..llike I said..once I know what I can add is valuable I'll jump right in.

Bambi

06-10-2010, 07:51 AM

might be useful to look at how they did this in Britain:

YouTube - UK Photographers protest against police stop and search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGQLhLnAwM&NR=1)

Matt K.

06-10-2010, 08:18 PM

nine voters .. not a big support for this ... disappointing .... :sad:

Iguanasan

06-10-2010, 08:57 PM

Maybe not, but it's a start. Gotta start somewhere! :)

Should we move along to the next step?

AcadieLibre

06-11-2010, 04:23 AM

I am not expecting much support here outside those who already have shown interest. I think we just move on to the next step. I also think our next step is to pick a day and I am thinking early October and it gives us time to do it properly, I love the August day and it is to bad it has taken a week to pick a name. At this rate even if things do speed up we need to give ourselves time so we are not rushed and have a lot of no shows and failed events. Events like this you do need a central group who make the decisions and all those from here at this point should be the ones deciding, because not every choice we make can be put popular vote here and give it this much time. If we decide to involve as many as we can in each decision we make it won't work and it is not how events like this are run. We need a governing body and they are the ones that need to run it and make the easy and hard choices quickly.

Need a date and logo next. If we keep putting these things to votes it will never get done, I think voting is a great way to get things passed but not like this it should be done in the same day if we stick to voting. At the rate we are going it will be next summer, lol. Most of the work will be done by the local organizers once a site, date and logo are chosen. A lot of decisions still need to be made but once all the things I listed are done we can market it and try to get others involved in other cities and towns and get more volunteers for each of the places we already have people willing to be involved.

There is a ton of work that needs to be done to get this going and lets just do it.

AcadieLibre

06-11-2010, 04:30 AM

might be useful to look at how they did this in Britain:

YouTube - UK Photographers protest against police stop and search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGQLhLnAwM&NR=1)

Great end result but the work is getting there lol.

Bambi

06-11-2010, 07:43 AM

Great end result but the work is getting there lol.

I agree (and I agree with your earlier post) I just thought that if we could find one of those groups and contact them we might not have to reinvent the wheel. I am okay with doing that.

Iguanasan

06-11-2010, 08:10 AM

Cool. Let's go! To that end, I'll disagree with October only because it can start getting cold in some areas and I'd rather do it on a nice day :headslap:

September 25th is likely to be a beautiful Saturday, or does it need to be a weekday? That's 3 full months to get things organized. Is that enough time? If there are no dissenters then September 25th it is. This would make it the 4th Saturday in September - an annual event.

We need someone to manage the web site. I cannot commit to that. Any takers? Preferably someone who already knows how to run a website. Marko?

I have started up a Flickr group: Flickr: PublicPhotography.org (http://www.flickr.com/groups/1477745@N22/)

casil403

06-11-2010, 08:31 AM

I am okay with September too.....I think it has to be on a weekend day.. that has to be a must in order to get a turnout.
Agreed...lets get going and make this thing happen.:thumbup:

AcadieLibre

06-11-2010, 06:13 PM

September also works for me. Now kat has offered her hubby to do the logo or help us with it and I think we should take her up on the offer. I like the camera dial idea maybe he can take the name and the dial and give us something to work with? I have no idea on this name on how to make a logo for it so I am very open to help. The website design we should have one person do it and then put it up for opinions to fine tune it. I think both of these can be done without much fuss and lets decide to get at least the logo done because we want it and I feel we should use the one logo across the spectrum from website to any marketing we do, it should be all encompassing for our look and feel. Ok no issues if we throw the logo to kat's hubby? Good. No problems with the date? Let us give that one day so those who are not around yet have a say but unless there is a compelling reason we should stick to the date Iggy suggested. Logo is the next main item, it will be needed to design the website around it is my feeling but if someone thinks they can start the site without it great. Saturday morning the latest on these decisions in my opinion, if no one has an issue by then we assume they agree and we move forward. A Saturday is the best day to hold these events in my experience.

Iguanasan

06-11-2010, 07:40 PM

Matt K.

06-11-2010, 08:39 PM

Here's an idea...Note that I suck for design so it would have to be done by someone knows what they're doing, kat???

But I thought I'd give whomever it is something to start with for an idea....

7424

I like the idea ... looks interesting ... play with font and layout a little ... oh, and September works for me as well .. our Photoclub will be back in session here in Calgary, maybe I can get some support there as well ..so far noone has responded to the post I put on the internal discussion board ...

kat

06-11-2010, 08:47 PM

AcadieLibre

06-11-2010, 11:19 PM

..so far noone has responded to the post I put on the internal discussion board ...

Internal discussion board? I seem to have missed something altogether :shrug:

What internal discussion board?

Matt K.

06-11-2010, 11:35 PM

Internal discussion board? I seem to have missed something altogether :shrug:

What internal discussion board?

The Foothills Camera Club, of which I am a member, has an intgernal message/discussion board. I was referring to that club.

AcadieLibre

06-12-2010, 01:27 AM

The Foothills Camera Club, of which I am a member, has an intgernal message/discussion board. I was referring to that club.

Ah, OK, at least I did not miss anything important.

Marko

06-12-2010, 12:07 PM

Looks like publicphotography.org is the winning name.

So now the all important question how do we start?

JAS_Photo

06-12-2010, 02:26 PM

Here is a basic T-shirt idea. The wording could be anything and the graphic is clipart from my word program.

Well first, you will need to create a website that explains what it is all about. Have some basic easy to explain ideas. Maybe have an outline for a flyer to print and hand out. Everyone participating could print up a few to hand out on the day of the event. If it's a walk-about with the participants walking around taking photos there is no problem but if it is a public gathering, you may need a permit for that. I think the ideas should be basic and something the public will easily understand without it being confrontational. The public should know that it not only affects pros but hobbyists and even themselves with their little point and shoots or iphone cameras. These are ideas only, as a start.

Bambi

06-12-2010, 03:52 PM

another idea I had was to show one of those camera pens with the caption- 'may cause concern' or some such thing and then an image of a dSLR and the caption 'should not cause concern'.

AcadieLibre

06-13-2010, 01:22 PM

I think we need to get the event back to what was the original idea and that was to protect our constitutional rights. The story that sparked this idea was about photographing a police officer on duty and getting arrested for taking photos of the on Duty officer and not that he was mistaken for a terrorist. Not sure how we are not Terrorist has come into this although it can be part of it but we should avoid narrowing it to just that issue, we have rights under the constitution and we need to protect those rights and it is more than just the Terrorist angle.

casil403

06-13-2010, 04:49 PM

The original I dea I had when I thought of this whole thing was being confronted by a guy who said I had to have a permit to take photos of a building while standing on a public street. I have since had hassle by security that happen to me again...while standing on a public sidewalk which is completely legal.
In my letter which I am going to post on the site I wrote:

"What we are hoping to accomplish is a peaceful mass photo get together from Coast to Coast City to City Town to Town across Canada to bring attention and awareness to the fact that photography is not a crime and photographers are not criminals. We are merely people with a pastime, a hobby or a job and photography is the means in which we express ourselves. We are guaranteed that right to do so in Canada because it is clearly outlined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Section 2.b) of the Charter states we as both Canadians and photographers are allowed:
“Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”

IMO....I am not interested in making an analogy that we are terrorists...that is just too confrontational and gives the event a negative slant. I am not interested in doing this in a confrontational manner with any kind of symbolism/logos that could initiate this in any kind of negative violent or conflictive manner which could lead to further harassment....I have absolutely no interest in any of that...I would like this to be a celebration of our hobby/craft/work more so than a confrontational event.
I would merely like to make it be known by strength in numbers that we are people who have a way of expressing our art. It is not a crime or against any law to do so as long as we are in public and not trespassing or breaking any laws while photographing, we have a right to exercise our craft without hassle or harrasement.
I really think that we should just get on with the business now of setting up the site, developing a logo or to be quite honest it will not get done. I think we need to have a few people on a committee right now to set this thing up and get it off the ground and the sooner that gets done the better.. :twocents:

AcadieLibre

06-13-2010, 04:57 PM

I really think that we should just get on with the business now of setting up the site, developing a logo or to be quite honest it will not get done. I think we need to have a few people on a committee right now to set this thing up and get it off the ground and the sooner that gets done the better.. :twocents:

Could not agree more .............

casil403

06-13-2010, 05:07 PM

I would also like to add that in all honesty, my interest is starting to wain a bit with the time that goes by without anything firm in place yet....sorry but I am telling it like it is. :o

AcadieLibre

06-14-2010, 12:54 AM

I am done, we just lost yet another entire weekend and I just do not know what to say once again. All the work that needs to go into this it had to move much faster than it has. I made suggestions to how to move forward with the event, I suggested on what needed to be done, in what order I felt and only felt how we could do it and no response or feedback in either a positive or negative. I also made other suggestions such as a live chat and pick a committee that would make all the decisions to move this forward as quickly as we could and I have no idea on what others thought. I have tried my best to push this forward and nothing, it is just not going to work this way for me anyway.As it moved forward it was going to get a lot more involved and people to move even quicker that I expected it to by now.

Iguanasan

06-14-2010, 07:47 AM

Really? That's it? You're going to give up because it's not moving fast enough? I thought the interested group was giving the weekend for others to chime in and if not we were going to move ahead without them. I'm willing to help out and advertise this thing around here because I too am getting tired of people treating photographer's badly, however, I'm not going to give up the rest of my life to do it.

As I understand it we have:
1) a domain name picked and registered;
2) a Flickr group set up;
3) someone who's willing to work on a logo - right, Kat? :fingerscr
4) the date picked

What we have left to do is to:

1) set up the website;
2) spread the message;
3) head out and take pictures on the appointed day

Because this all didn't happen in the first couple of weeks we're giving up?

I'm still interested.

Kat, do you think it reasonable that the logo could be done this week?

Marko, are you up for hosting the website? It seems to be up your alley since you have more than one on the go right now anyway.

Once we have a website with a logo and a message we can start spreading the word. Or we can start spreading the word today. I just need confirmation that at least one other person will go in on this with me. While I still think it's worth doing, I don't want to do it for myself.

Marko

06-14-2010, 10:16 AM

It's hard to get everyone all together as we all have different schedules - I don't get that much time on the weekends (unless I get special permission) but I'm but I'm still definitely interested.

Can we set aside a time for us all to be online and chat this through?

I can definitely host the site.

I apologize if my lack of posting these last few days has contributed to this (sudden to me) bad taste in people's mouths. :o

kat

06-14-2010, 11:14 AM

Sorry! Crazy weekend here! I've showed my husband this thread..he's been through it several times and is more than willing to give the logo a shot! "I'll work on something today." is what I just got. He also said he'll do a couple up.

Iguanasan

06-14-2010, 11:22 AM

Iguanasan

06-14-2010, 02:30 PM

Created a Facebook group....

PublicPhotography.org | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121906411183898)

Marko

06-14-2010, 03:10 PM

Thx for the FB group Iggy! :highfive:
Can we set aside a time to meet online to discuss the project?
Both Iggy and I can do Noon (plus or minus) this Wednesday? Can other people that are still interested chime in if they can make it?

Thx! - Marko

Bambi

06-14-2010, 09:28 PM

I can't do noon- I'm in Toronto this week for a conference. but I am good for whatever people decide.

Marko

06-15-2010, 10:21 AM

I can't do noon- I'm in Toronto this week for a conference. but I am good for whatever people decide.

can you suggest a time that's good for you then? Thx - Marko

Bambi

06-15-2010, 10:37 PM

can you suggest a time that's good for you then? Thx - Marko

well it does not have to be about me at all. :) However, next week in the evening I can make work. it's this dang pesky job- interfering with my life!

Marko

06-16-2010, 11:15 AM

It's about everyone...but we need to meet if this is going to work so we should all agree on a time together no?

That's why I'm suggesting we use this thread to organize a time for all to meet.

If next week is good for you bambi can we meet Monday evening? I'll make myself available.

Iggy - you okay to meet Monday eve?

FYI - I'm on the hosting thing, should be connected with a homepage very shortly.

thx! - Marko

JAS_Photo

06-16-2010, 11:47 AM

I will go along with and support whatever you guys decide. My work schedule makes it difficult to attend these things but if you have flyers to distribute etc. I can hand those out. Participate on the Facebook thing, etc.

BTW, Iggy your link to a flickr group on the facebook group is not working. :(

Iguanasan

06-16-2010, 01:43 PM

Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday I can do. Monday and Thursday are karate nights and Saturday is reserved for socializing.

What would be the agenda? I'm all for a phone chat or some such but I've found that it's pretty hard to get everyone together. What do we need?

How are the logos coming, kat?

Iguanasan

06-16-2010, 01:49 PM

BTW, Iggy your link to a flickr group on the facebook group is not working. :(

Thanks. Facebook mangled the URL because it has an @ in it.

JAS_Photo

06-16-2010, 05:06 PM

Cool stuff! Be nice to see more joining to lend support. :)

JAS_Photo

06-17-2010, 11:26 AM

So is the flickr for anyone to to post public photos to? Can we promote it? There are a lot of photographers in Calgary that do a lot of public photography that we could invite. I am sure that goes for your area or anyone's as well. It would be a rather dull group if there was only the photos for that one occasion in there.

Iguanasan

06-17-2010, 01:33 PM

The Facebook group seems to be getting photos from everyone already so, sure, why not? I'm easy. We will try to curate the group though and keep it to public photos to fit the theme.

I'll have to look at the settings to see about making sure these other options are open. I assume I can share management of the Flickr/Facebook groups. Any takers to help with that?

Marko

06-17-2010, 02:26 PM

Ok Publicphotography.org (http://www.publicphotography.org/) is live but it's only a placeholder for the moment.

What we could also use help with is a blog setup... does anyone have experience with that? setting up and customizing blogs is not my forte at all.
I can definitely maintain it once it's up though.

I suggest running this through a blog because it makes it so much more interactive - but I'm open to all ideas on this one.

Iguanasan

06-17-2010, 03:03 PM

Blog is an excellent idea, however, I've only ever used Blogger. I'm sure I could figure it out given a bit of time unless someone else already knows. Does your hosting company have an admin page where you select a blog engine or some such or do we need to find a blogging tool to install?

Marko

06-17-2010, 04:41 PM

No any blog install would need to be done manually - it's really not that hard...it's been at least 3 years since I've done it though and I've only done it once...and i'm crap at the customization...that I've never really done.

for anyone that's done this before, the install should take about 15min. For those that need to learn as they go (like me...probably 60-90 min)

customization - probably 1-2 hours.

does anyone know anyone with basic wordpress skills that might want to help out just on the setup/customization?

Thx!

Marko

Marko

06-18-2010, 11:18 AM

If nobody can offer help on the above task, I'll try to install it (wordpress 3.0) myself on Monday.

If anybody knows people that could help on the technical side of blog customization that would be great.

I assume I can share management of the Flickr/Facebook groups. Any takers to help with that? I'll help if i can...

again i suggest a meeting online for those willing to help....please state your availability.

At this point I'm just trying to get the thing live, but if nobody else steps up with concrete plans to make this happen...or offer a time when we can all meet to focus the project...then this puppy will fail.

I'd say we need 4 or 5 of us online at the same time next week........or i too am simply out.
I'll make myself available at anytime we agree on...but i want people posting when they can meet online. Name a date and time please.

thx!
Marko

Iguanasan

06-18-2010, 01:53 PM

Tuesday or Wednesday evening:

7:00pm Atlantic through to 11:00pm Atlantic. Just let me know in advance.

JAS_Photo

06-18-2010, 10:38 PM

I only know enough code basically, to make a hyperlink, so would not be any use on the website. I work splits every day so am not around when most people are as a general rule but I can promote the sites, add links etc. If everyone invited their friends to the facebook photography.org the site would grow in membership. Every time someone posts to it it shows up on the news feed of the members which puts it front and center in people's minds. So if you invite 10 friends and they invite 10 friends and so on and so on.....

Marko

06-21-2010, 12:03 PM

JAS_Photo

06-21-2010, 12:33 PM

Looks good so far, Marko.

Marko

06-21-2010, 12:39 PM

Thanks - yup that's the basic install part - took me 30-40 min.

I just tried to customize the header and came up with a permissions error...hence the request for simple customization help. I certainly know people I can pay for this....but i'd rather not have to pay..

many thx - M

Iguanasan

06-21-2010, 12:42 PM

I can meet at 7pm Atlantic time tuesday. If it's only a few of us I can do a conference call at my expense.

Publicphotography.org is now a live blog running on wordpress 3.0

Still looking for any helpers on customization...

many thx

Marko

Wonderful. I'm sure I can help, let me clear a couple of other things off my plate first but I'll get to it as soon as possible. Can you email me some credentials?

Marko

06-21-2010, 01:50 PM

sure - I'll send them by email

thx! - M

Marko

06-21-2010, 02:25 PM

Okay I fixed that header image :highfive:

Just as an FYI - in order to get the original image attached image as the header the graphic should be on the left and the wording on the right imo.

This means it needs to be resized and repositioned. It should be cake from the original file which i do not have. The exact dimensions of that file should be 940px × 198px

Kat any chance you could resize that file for us - if not, if you email me the file, I should be able to do it.

There was also Iggy's file which i also like VERY much - not sure which one is better....

we can use either file as the header/logo so long as it's properly resized from the original file.

This is why a meeting online (or opinions posted here) as to the purpose of the publicphotography.org is important. I think the direction should be clear to any viewer. Although i like Kat's logo a lot, Iggy's logo repeats the name of the site which may be less confusing (not sure)

anyway - like some opinions here!

Thx!!

Marko

http://www.photography.ca/Forums/attachments/f3/7437d1276367046-canada-wide-shoot-camera-girl-3.jpg

Iguanasan

06-21-2010, 02:33 PM

Not pushing mine too much as I think mine sucks from a quality perspective, however, I would prefer not to use the Photography is Not a Crime one as I would feel like I am stealing from Carlos Miller's site, Photography Is Not A Crime (http://carlosmiller.com/)

Marko

06-21-2010, 02:35 PM

Iggy makes a good point...another site is using that catchphrase...

AcadieLibre

06-21-2010, 08:42 PM

If your going to do a logo you need to use the name you picked out as the main feature. Then you can add a tag line but Public Photography should be the main words. A tag line should be something like Photography is a Right or along those lines simple and to the point and incorporates all rights of photographers. Just an idea. I will weigh in still and if you need a hand in Toronto I will help to get it going here but I will be minimally involved. I also think the person with the camera is way to busy but these are just my thoughts. You should consider something a bit more plain and easy to reproduce and looks good from something as small as a button to a poster. If it is too busy you will limit it to what you can use it on. Simple is best. Just an opinion.

Marko

06-21-2010, 09:02 PM

I am glad to hear that you are 'in', in some capacity A.L. :)

many thx - Marko

kat

06-21-2010, 10:08 PM

Sorry guys, crazy busy here. Lots of things have happened in my life and just getting it all together.
Marko, not to sure what you want me to re size?
Pete did this up just now. What you guys think?

JAS_Photo

06-21-2010, 11:31 PM

I just used the Photography Is Not A Crime logo because our name had not been established at the time. I like Kat's number 2 choice. It will show up on a white or black bg.

JAS_Photo

06-22-2010, 03:27 AM

You probably already know this but here is a link to Wordpress Themes and hacks:
WordPress Themes, Plugins, Hacks, Guides, and More! « WordPress Hacks (http://wphacks.com/)

Iguanasan

06-22-2010, 07:38 AM

#2 works for me too. Public Photography in the cross hairs. I'll add in tonight if everyone is amenable (or no one complains ;) ).

casil403

06-22-2010, 08:24 AM

As I said to Marko in a PM, right now my life is pretty chaotic with finishing a very important fulltime school practicum, (with a bit of a huge learning curve) and then also working part time as well. so not only do I not have a lot of time for photos, I do not have a lot of time for much else for at least the next 2 weeks. :o
I am committed to doing extremely well on this practicum so I can have a better chance at finding employment once it is done so all my time, energy and priorities are focused there for the next few weeks.
Sorry guys that's how it has to be right now. I will catch up and jump back into this in a couple weeks when life slows down a bit for me. :)

Feel free to use this on the website if you like...or change it up if you want to as well. I wrote it a while back. It gives an idea of what I think we are about.

Public photography.org
A Celebration Focusing on the Rights of Photographers

An idea is in the works by a few people. What we are hoping to accomplish is a peaceful mass photo get together from Coast to Coast City to City Town to Town across Canada to bring attention and awareness to the fact that public photography is not a crime and photographers are not criminals. We are merely people with a pastime, a hobby or a job and photography is the means in which we express ourselves. We are guaranteed that right to do so in Canada because it is clearly outlined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Section 2.b) of the Charter states we as both Canadians and photographers are allowed:
“Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”

This statement absolutely guarantees our right to express ourselves through photography, and the freedom to publish our photos. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees our right to take photographs in public. That's right; we can take photos of anything in public and under regular circumstances, as long as no laws are broken while photographing. It is not against the law.

Oh and I love Kat/Pete's #2 version. :)

Marko

06-22-2010, 10:26 AM

I like what you have written casil and we'll incorporate it into the blog.

I too like Kat's #2 design (Thanks Pete :thumbup:)

In terms of making it the standard header size to fit in the blog though it needs to be exactly 940px × 198px I tried to do this with photoshop and it didn't work out. I'm guessing the file was done in illustrator... any chance you could resize #2 for us to exactly 940 x 198 pixels?

many thx!

Marko

kat

06-22-2010, 10:38 AM

Are the colors fine? would you like a couple more done up with out the cross hairs..diferent design I guess? I'll pass the resize to him.

Marko

06-22-2010, 10:56 AM

Personally, i really want to limit the work Pete is doing for us. If he's the creative type and wants to try more designs or small embellishments because he loves to play...he can of course, but frankly, i think we may just have it..He's VERY talented to have come up with these 3 designs so quickly.

But it seems several members including myself are perfectly happy with design #2 - The colours are strong, it's very readable...it just works imo. Only the resize is necessary and that might take a wee bit of fiddling...so if he's able to do that for us - Yahoo!

Thx kat!

Marko

kat

06-22-2010, 11:19 AM

No problem! I'll get him to do it when he gets home from work. He has it saved in different formats (for printing purposes I think) so whatever you need from it just shout out! He doesn't mind. Anything to get him doing something :)

casil403

06-22-2010, 04:21 PM

It might also be a good idea to post a few resource links to sites such as this one:
Ambientlight.ca - Laws (http://ambientlight.ca/laws.php)

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ukphotographersrights-v2.pdf

http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf

Iguanasan

06-22-2010, 10:16 PM

Both Marko and I will be away from our respective home towns on the 4th Saturday in September so we decided, committee of two, to move it to the Second Saturday in September (SSS) which this year is September 11th, 2010.

We both believe that we should have more than enough time to promote via the web and so that should be more than enough time.

Unless there are strong objections to this date we'll lock it in for this date.

kat

06-22-2010, 11:00 PM

Pete did a banner. Hopefully it's what you are looking for.

casil403

06-22-2010, 11:13 PM

WOW Kat! :highfive: I think it is freaking awesome! :thankyou: Pete!

Marko

06-22-2010, 11:31 PM

Pete did a banner. Hopefully it's what you are looking for.

FREAKIN' AWESOME! Love it!

I'll implement that banner in the site's header within 12 hours!

many thx Kat N' Pete! :highfive:

Iguanasan

06-22-2010, 11:33 PM

I third it! Thanks, Pete! :1st::thankyou:

JAS_Photo

06-23-2010, 02:19 AM

That's awesome! Thanks Kat and Pete!

Marko

06-23-2010, 09:48 AM

I see Iggy implemented that header - Thx Iggy

Marko

06-23-2010, 12:27 PM

I started adding a few pages and came up with an error.

Maybe it's a cache error? I tried to add a custom link just as a placeholder right near the about link....it caused a problem so i deleted it.

Now from MY end when i hit public publicphotography.org it automatically goes to http://publicphotography.org/new-page-1/ which is a page I deleted.

Are other members seeing this?

Thx!

marko

JAS_Photo

06-23-2010, 12:36 PM

This is what I get Marko-Not Found
Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will h

Marko

06-23-2010, 12:40 PM

ok fixed. Thx.

lots of settings in this new version of WP...not all of them super-intuitive.

Marko

06-23-2010, 01:24 PM

Ok fixed up the blogroll to include laws in the USA, canada and the UK.

I copied the ABOUT section and made it post 1. If we choose to, we can always have that about text as the main text on publicphotography.org OR we can have it be more standard where the newest post always shows first....we have time to decide but feel free to opine.

I tried modifying the Categories to add a less generic term than Uncategorized... but that seemed to muck with the existing pages....so I reverted.

What also might be nice is if we can include a facebook widget and perhaps a flicker widget... Iggy said he might be able to take a look into this... If there's any trouble with this I can also take a look...but only tomorrow.

many thx!
Marko

Marko

06-23-2010, 01:30 PM

If members have a few minutes and want to help, i know we have a bunch of links to videos on THIS site...showing cops harassing photographers.

If anyone wants to copy and paste a few of those links right here in this thread, we can add them to publicphotography.org.

If no-one gets to this today I can have a look tomorrow. many thx! m

Iguanasan

06-23-2010, 02:59 PM

Starting to get a little excited.

19 Members on Flickr, 44 Members on Facebook. Starting to promote through my social network. So, I'll tell more than 2 friends... wonder how this will turn out :goodvibes

Marko

06-23-2010, 03:35 PM

Way cool :highfive: :goodvibes - I'll start my promotion likely next week when the blog has a bit more meat on it.

Iguanasan

06-23-2010, 03:55 PM

Way cool :highfive: :goodvibes - I'll start my promotion likely next week when the blog has a bit more meat on it.

Excellent! As I said, I was a little excited to see it coming together so I couldn't resist starting now as I figured there was enough info for people to figure out what's going on.

Marko

06-23-2010, 04:01 PM

I've also edited post 1 for easy access to these summarized links.
Thx - Marko

www.publicphotography.org (http://www.publicphotography.org/)
Facebook group - PublicPhotography.org | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121906411183898)
Flickr group - Flickr: PublicPhotography.org (http://www.flickr.com/groups/publicphotography/)

casil403

06-23-2010, 07:08 PM

I have invited pretty much most of my flickr contacts to join the flickr group. I also include a note to invite as many of their contacts as well. I urge everyone else to do the same. So far 12 of them have joined the group. :)

Marko

06-24-2010, 12:15 PM

cool! I've added a few blog posts to publicphotography.org

casil403

06-24-2010, 01:39 PM

I also remember this thread form AL a few months ago:

http://www.photography.ca/Forums/f3/ottawa-joins-war-photography-8265.html

Especially the paragrpah in the link that says

What unusual situations we should be watching for?

Although the chance of such situations occuring is unlikely, we urge you to be alert to any unusual situation.

A suspicious package left unattended in a bus, near a bus stop or in a transit shelter;
A package, bag or other carry-on baggage left unattended at some distance or purposely left out of the way;
A package carrying unusual items such as batteries, electrical wires or containers;
A jittery or nervous individual loitering near a transit shelter or whose behaviour on board a bus appears suspicious, abnormal or out of the ordinary;
An individual taking photos or pictures in a location that has no particular interest, drawing maps or sketches, taking notes or wandering in the same location for an unusually long time;
An unexpected detour of your bus from its regular transit route, unannounced by your driver or an official notice from the operator of the transit system.

Particular interest? Who defines what is of "no particular interest"??? :shrug: I do all of that downtown every time I go out with a camera!

casil403

06-24-2010, 01:52 PM

Hey one more idea...maybe we can move this thread to it's own topic or make a sticky? PublicPhotography.org That way we can add stuff as we go and not clog up General Photography too much? :)

Iguanasan

06-24-2010, 01:56 PM

Hey one more idea...maybe we can move this thread to it's own topic or make a sticky? PublicPhotography.org That way we can add stuff as we go and not clog up General Photography too much? :)

Good idea but I'll leave that for Marko to decide. Also, as an FYI, I buzzed Thomas Hawk - a fairly well known photographer on the 'net and he put a link to PublicPhotography.org on his site, Thomas Hawk Digital Connection (http://thomashawk.com/) and joined our Flickr group. :)

Marko

06-24-2010, 02:17 PM

Hey one more idea...maybe we can move this thread to it's own topic or make a sticky? PublicPhotography.org That way we can add stuff as we go and not clog up General Photography too much? :)

Done - I have kept this a sticky in this forum and edited the threadtitle...

Did you think it should be it's own forum or subforum... hmmm?

Btw - I added the Ottawa link and a disney link as well in the publicphotography.org website

Good idea but I'll leave that for Marko to decide. Also, as an FYI, I buzzed Thomas Hawk - a fairly well known photographer on the 'net and he put a link to PublicPhotography.org on his site, Thomas Hawk Digital Connection (http://thomashawk.com/) and joined our Flickr group. :)

Nice Iggy!

casil403

06-24-2010, 02:41 PM

I think a Sticky is fine... I don't think it needs it's own forum. Just makes the GP section a bit cleaner IMO. :)

Marko

06-24-2010, 03:25 PM

Just curious - were we thinking this was going to be a Canada wide shoot in?

or perhaps a world wide shoot in? If so I'll change the thread title to world wide shoot in. Don't want to exclude anyone in another country that wants to get involved.

thx! M

Marko

06-24-2010, 03:43 PM

If you are helping in any way with this project we'd like to give you credit on the About page on the blog... About | Publicphotography.org (http://publicphotography.org/about/)

I'd prefer to know how you'd like to be credited though...
So basically please list your preference - your FORUM name or your REAL name. Please also list 1 website or flickr site etc, if you want that to go beside your name.

Thanks! marko

AcadieLibre

06-24-2010, 08:54 PM

Pete did a banner. Hopefully it's what you are looking for.

What a great job. Well done.

Iguanasan

06-24-2010, 09:26 PM

Iguanasan

06-24-2010, 09:26 PM

Matt K.

06-24-2010, 09:41 PM

What a great job. Well done.

wow, indeed, the banner is dynamite ... many thanks

JAS_Photo

06-25-2010, 02:02 AM

I was thinking it might not be a bad idea if Marko were to open up say a Custom T-Shirts | Make your t-shirt online | T-Shirt Printing & Design (http://www.wordans.com) store to sell photography.org branded merchandise and make back a few $$$$ for hosting the website and registering the domain. I know I would buy a t-Shirt. Members here could contribute ideas on what they would like to see in the store etc. It would help offset expenses incurred.

casil403

06-25-2010, 09:21 AM

I just sent Carlos Miller an email hoping to engage his support as well. :)
Photography Is Not A Crime (http://carlosmiller.com/)
I am hoping he will post a link to us in his blog and perhaps we can so the same in return. :)
I will let you know if I hear back from him.

Marko

06-25-2010, 10:11 AM

Glenn Euloth (Iguanasan) - http://www.euloth.com/

Thx iggy - Not going to push the credits thing, just going to copy/paste names from this thread and if people want me to make changes to their credit i can.

I was thinking it might not be a bad idea if Marko were to open up say a Custom T-Shirts | Make your t-shirt online | T-Shirt Printing & Design (http://www.wordans.com) store to sell photography.org branded merchandise and make back a few $$$$ for hosting the website and registering the domain. I know I would buy a t-Shirt. Members here could contribute ideas on what they would like to see in the store etc. It would help offset expenses incurred.

The registration, and hosting is my pleasure. I don't want one cent for this. In fact if this were to generate any money at all for any reason - we could talk as a group what to do with it. What I could use....is more help. JAS, might I be so bold as to ask you to look into this T-shirt idea. I think a branded T-shirt is a great idea and i would buy one too..

Many thx in advance if you are able..

I just sent Carlos Miller an email hoping to engage his support as well. :)
Photography Is Not A Crime (http://carlosmiller.com/)
I am hoping he will post a link to us in his blog and perhaps we can so the same in return. :)
I will let you know if I hear back from him.

well that's cool! Please let us know what he says and of course we can reciprocate!

thx! - M

Iguanasan

06-25-2010, 10:33 AM

With respect to t-Shirts maybe we just need to create a really cool design (or 3) and register it with Custom T-Shirts - Design Your T-Shirts Online - Free Shipping! (http://www.customink.com/) which seems to be a pretty good place (reading a few reviews) to order from.

casil403

06-25-2010, 10:53 AM

casil403

06-25-2010, 11:23 AM

Also when I get a bit more time (I have had the last couple days off from my practicum due to my preceptor needing the days off) I am going to approach The Camera Store.
I want to see if I can get them on board with advertising and supporting our event because ultimately if sales go down because of all these hassles and new laws, who is going to want to take up photography as a hobby or spend money on something they could be arrested for or hassled by the authorities :shrug:

JAS_Photo

06-25-2010, 11:30 AM

Iggy, Wordans lets you create your own store, so all you do is create a few products and put up a link for everyone to order from. Plus it's Canadian. :)

Marko, I could set it up, with the designs we have so far and let you take a look and see what you think.

Marko

06-25-2010, 11:48 AM

That would be super-appreciated Jas! Many thx!

casil403

06-25-2010, 05:37 PM

Carlos Miller is now watching our site. I got his email today. :)

Marko

06-25-2010, 05:43 PM

I thought I would throw this out: I made a little leaflet and saved it in a word document to hand out in case I ever get hassled again for shooting so I thought I would post it for anyone else to use as they see fit. :)
Feel free to post it, use it, comment on it or change it up if you think the wording is not okay:

Thanks for your interest in my photography. I want to inform you that I am doing nothing wrong:

I am guaranteed that right to take pictures in public in Canada because it is clearly outlined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Section 2.b) states that as both a Canadian citizen and as a photographer I am allowed:

"Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”

This statement absolutely guarantees my right to express myself through photography, and the freedom to publish my photos. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees my right to take photographs in public.

I can take photos of anything and under regular circumstances, as long as no laws are broken while photographing, it is not against the law.

Publicphotography.org | A Celebration Focusing on the Rights of Photographers (http://www.publicphotography.org)

I like it! Please keep in mind That ANYONE should be able to register and post what they want on the blog.... So let me know casil if you want to post this or if I should do it. (No worries either way since it's already written and will only take me 3 min to post this)

Also when I get a bit more time (I have had the last couple days off from my practicum due to my preceptor needing the days off) I am going to approach The Camera Store.
I want to see if I can get them on board with advertising and supporting our event because ultimately if sales go down because of all these hassles and new laws, who is going to want to take up photography as a hobby or spend money on something they could be arrested for or hassled by the authorities :shrug:

AWESOME! keep us posted!

Carlos Miller is now watching our site. I got his email today. :)

way cool!!!

Many thx! Marko

casil403

06-25-2010, 05:53 PM

Feel free to post it on the site Marko. Thankfully I did not need to use them today but I now have copies of them in my bag if needed. :)

JAS_Photo

06-25-2010, 06:15 PM

casil403

06-25-2010, 08:32 PM

I had an idea for a shirt:
Our really cool logo on one side and this statement on the other side:

“Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”- from section 2.b)The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Also definition of photography:
Merriam Webster:
Main Entry: pho·tog·ra·phy
Pronunciation: \fə-ˈtä-grə-fē\
Function: noun
Date: 1839
: the art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or a CCD chip)

Anyhow just a thought....

JAS_Photo

06-26-2010, 03:04 AM

There is one t-shirt in the store with the max amount of type on the back, as an example. Just waiting for the files for the official logo, then an approval of the design and things will be underway!

Marko

06-26-2010, 10:02 AM

Ok, the store is created. It has no product yet as the designs must be approved and Kat is having Pete resize them to meet minimum size standards. There is no commission on any item so they are set at minimum prices. It will be a day or two for that. There are link backs to the blog and facebook page.

Custom T-shirts, T-shirts printing & personalized T-shirts by publicphotography | Custom t-shirts printing Online ! (http://publicphotography.wordans.com/my/boutique)

awesome Jas! many thx!

I had an idea for a shirt:
Our really cool logo on one side and this statement on the other side:

“Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”- from section 2.b)The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Also definition of photography:
Merriam Webster:
Main Entry: pho·tog·ra·phy
Pronunciation: \fə-ˈtä-grə-fē\
Function: noun
Date: 1839
: the art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or a CCD chip)

Anyhow just a thought....

I like it as well!

Just as an FYI - weekends are a slower time for me but i will be checking this thread from time to time. Thx - Marko

Marko

06-27-2010, 10:17 AM

Gonna try to get some widgets for the blog tomorrow to pull images from both the flickr group and the FB group. Thx! M

casil403

06-27-2010, 10:30 AM

Feel free to use anything of mine on there if you like. :)

Iguanasan

06-27-2010, 10:50 AM

Gonna try to get some widgets for the blog tomorrow to pull images from both the flickr group and the FB group. Thx! M

I've been looking for a bunch and found one or two that might worth trying... I was going to try them out today so I might beat you to it :)

Iguanasan

06-27-2010, 01:27 PM

I've been looking for a bunch and found one or two that might worth trying... I was going to try them out today so I might beat you to it :)

Got it 90% of the way I think but can't quite figure out how to actually "put it on the page" so to speak. maybe you'll have better luck. I'm taking a break from it.

Marko

06-27-2010, 02:14 PM

Thanks Iggy! I'll take a look tomorrow or very late tonite. thx - makro

casil403

06-27-2010, 07:22 PM

Check this out from the G20 protesters regarding photographers in public covering their protests:
Fire.Works.For.Prisons — JUNE 27 2010 TORONTO (http://fireworksforprisons.wordpress.com/)

FWFP collective will not be communicating with media before, during, or after the June 27th event.

Media (video, sound recording, photos) that covers individuals without their consent will be confronted.

Individuals whose ideas are found in the intentions of this demo are welcome, representatives of media are not.

So much for public photography.

JAS_Photo

06-28-2010, 02:34 AM

Some of the designs waiting for approval:

Marko

06-28-2010, 12:28 PM

Marko

06-28-2010, 12:40 PM

I thought I would throw this out: I made a little leaflet and saved it in a word document to hand out in case I ever get hassled again for shooting so I thought I would post it for anyone else to use as they see fit. :)
Feel free to post it, use it, comment on it or change it up if you think the wording is not okay:

Thanks for your interest in my photography. I want to inform you that I am doing nothing wrong:

I am guaranteed that right to take pictures in public in Canada because it is clearly outlined in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Section 2.b) states that as both a Canadian citizen and as a photographer I am allowed:

"Freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;”

This statement absolutely guarantees my right to express myself through photography, and the freedom to publish my photos. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees my right to take photographs in public.

I can take photos of anything and under regular circumstances, as long as no laws are broken while photographing, it is not against the law.

Publicphotography.org | A Celebration Focusing on the Rights of Photographers (http://www.publicphotography.org)

Posted this casil - many thx!

Got it 90% of the way I think but can't quite figure out how to actually "put it on the page" so to speak. maybe you'll have better luck. I'm taking a break from it.

Can we IM chat at some point today/tomorrow so I have an idea of what you did...

many thx! Marko

JAS_Photo

06-28-2010, 01:08 PM

I like all these designs Jas! many thx!

If i had one comment.....
the text that describes 'our freedoms', that font seems a bit stiff to me...aside from that - very nice!

maybe we''ll wait for any additional comments today and then you (or I if need be) can upload these tomorrow?

many thx! Marko

Hi Marko!

In order to upload that much text I have to create a file in Elements and add text line by line, then upload as a transparent png file after which there is an approval waiting time. I will do the same text in different colors but if you have a font in mind let me know. I can always download it if I do not have it.

So if anyone was wondering why it is taking so long that is the reason. Text applied directly from their app goes on immediately but you are limited in fonts and style and the png file looks much nicer. :)

JAS_Photo

06-28-2010, 05:29 PM

The Shop is up and running!

Custom T-shirts, T-shirts printing & personalized T-shirts by publicphotography | Custom t-shirts printing Online ! (http://publicphotography.wordans.com/my/boutique)

Iguanasan

06-28-2010, 06:15 PM

Fantastic. Great work. I am wondering though about the "Photography is not a Crime" shirts. Isn't there a bit of an issue with that? I don't know if Carlos Miller registered that as a trademark or a copyright or anything but I'm not sure if we can use it?

JAS_Photo

06-28-2010, 06:24 PM

Cafe Press has a lot of them using the same words but by different designers, so I do not see why not.
Men's Not a Crime t-shirt - CafePress Canada (http://www.cafepress.ca/+mens_not_a_crime_tshirt,273583846)

Marko

06-29-2010, 10:32 AM

Store looks great Jas - many thx!

In order to upload that much text I have to create a file in Elements and add text line by line, then upload as a transparent png file after which there is an approval waiting time. I will do the same text in different colors but if you have a font in mind let me know. I can always download it if I do not have it.

So if anyone was wondering why it is taking so long that is the reason. Text applied directly from their app goes on immediately but you are limited in fonts and style and the png file looks much nicer.I probably shouldn't have said anything about the font...
Here's 3 fonts I just looked at quickly the last one is really weird and called earwig factory.

Feel free to choose the one you like best even your original one - no worries at all. sorry on the bright red - my error - I tried to choose the same colour - but something wonky happened.

many thx again:highfive:

Marko

06-29-2010, 01:54 PM

In terms of crediting people, I just copied and pasted people that posted in this thread and added a link to their websites if they had it posted in their profile. Feel free to PM Iggy or me if you want us to modify the credit.

About | Publicphotography.org (http://publicphotography.org/about/)

Thx! Marko

AcadieLibre

06-30-2010, 07:44 AM

Why was the Second Saturday of September picked? That is not a good weekend for a lot of parents of school age children, that is the weekend the school sends you home a list a foot long of supplies the kids needs. It is also a short week and the end of the first week of school and people usually are too tired that weekend to do much, being a parent just a bad weekend. The other issue is if you want HS kids involved they have not ever really started school yet so to get the word out at HS the date should be 3 to 4 weeks after the start of school. Just my thoughts feel free to ignore them.

Iguanasan

06-30-2010, 08:18 AM

Hey, A.L.

Marko and I were both going to be out of town the subsequent weekends in September and we both really wanted to be involved so we moved it ahead to the second Saturday. I don't really see this as a problem for parents since school supplies are bought in advance school, generally in late August. As for getting HS students involved, it's much easier to get the word out via the Internet than to rely on any kind of communication with the school system.

Marko

06-30-2010, 12:19 PM

In terms of other weekends in sept - sept 4 is labour day weekend so many will be out of town. Sept 18 is Yom Kippur (holiest and a fasting day for Jews).

So Sept. 11 just seemed to fit....

Hope that's cool, especially since we've already started putting out "the word".

thx - Marko

AcadieLibre

06-30-2010, 03:06 PM

Marko

06-30-2010, 03:23 PM

I sure hope that doesn't mean you won't participate. :fingerscr

AcadieLibre

07-05-2010, 04:15 PM

Is this being discussed here or elsewhere? I have been laid up for the past several days so I may have missed something and was just curious.

Iguanasan

07-05-2010, 11:12 PM

There conversation is mostly here. It's been quiet the last few days. We are continuing to post articles on the website and some links in the Facebook group and there's always room for images on Flickr.

casil403

07-07-2010, 09:23 PM

Freelance photographer Lance Rosenfield was working on assignment for ProPublica in Texas City, Texas, last week, when a BP security guard began following him. Rosenfield was later detained by police after taking photos for two ProPublica stories.

ProPublica Photographer: I Was Followed by BP Security and Then Detained by Police - ProPublica (http://www.propublica.org/article/photographer-tells-of-being-followed-by-bp-security-and-then-detained)

AcadieLibre

07-22-2010, 02:33 PM

A lens Cloth that would be a good idea for all photographers to own, just need a Canadian one.

Your Rights on A Lens Cloth (http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/blog-post/1687000/your-street-photography-rights-lens-cloth)

AcadieLibre

07-22-2010, 02:35 PM

The Home Office in Britain admits to illegal use of Section 44 powers. (http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/1653777/home-office-admits-illegal-section-44-powers?WT.rss_f=The%20latest%20news%20articles%20f rom%20BJP&WT.rss_a=Home%20Office%20admits%20to%20illegal%20u se%20of%20Section%2044%20powers)

JAS_Photo

08-19-2010, 02:36 PM

Just bringing this up to the top again! We have 73 members on Facebook currently.

PublicPhotography.org | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121906411183898)

Don't forget about the flickr group as well and please post your public photos there!

Iguanasan

08-19-2010, 02:43 PM

Awesome. Not quite the thousands I'd hoped for but there's still a couple of weeks yet! :)

JAS_Photo

09-09-2010, 02:05 AM

Matt K.

09-09-2010, 08:19 PM

So I am wondering if anyone from the Calgary contingent wants to meet up and shoot a photos? I guess the walk time is scheduled for 1:00 p.m. on Saturday? I have to work that evening but could go out and put in a couple of hours. :)

sure, count me in, JAS. I'll goive Greg a call. Maybe we can get some stuff in before the Jazz jam @ 3.

Iguanasan

09-09-2010, 08:45 PM

Don't be a slave to the 1:00pm schedule if a different time works better in your neighbourhood. I'm starting at 9:00am with plans to be done by noonish.

mbrager

09-10-2010, 12:37 AM

I was planning to spend some time Saturday in public with my camera. Where is "the walk" meeting on Saturday at 1:00? If I can I'll join. I love groups. Mike

JAS_Photo

09-10-2010, 01:38 AM

Maybe meeting at the west end of Thompson park, across from the Devenish and heading down 17th to 4th street? Then down 4th? Unless someone has a different idea or somewhere they prefer but if the weather is not rainy there should be lots of people around.

mbrager

09-10-2010, 11:06 AM

That should work for me. Mike

Matt K.

09-10-2010, 08:28 PM

I suppose I could join you. I want to end up at the "Broken City" on 11Ave around 3 for the Jazz jam. Might bring wifey along.

JAS_Photo

09-11-2010, 02:19 AM

Sounds good! Hope the weather holds though. :(

Marko

09-12-2010, 12:49 AM

Had a great time in Old Montreal Shooting for this project. I'll post more tomorrow, but here's 3 shots from today.

JAS_Photo

09-12-2010, 02:51 PM

Cool stuff, Marko! Serendipity was on our side in Calgary as it was ACAD's Sidewalk Chalk Art Competition. I think Matt and Mike have a few images as well. They were great to photograph, and quite accommodating, chatting a little about their project and also one person thanked us for asking before taking the shots. We had to deal with rain showers which sucked for Chalk Walk especially.

Here we go:

This way!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/4981615157_4c0b6df504_b.jpg

Harrison and friend Bianca:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/4982242294_1d1cddd0d8_b.jpg

Monica:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4982239404_7bfcdef88f_b.jpg

I did not take her name, but don't you love the smile? Cool drawing as well!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4982234148_0c577e4b13_b.jpg

Another very talented artist:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/4981621011_559b85d388_b.jpg

An umbrella to try and keep the artwork dry. The artists were wonderfully accommodating and friendly.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/4982231554_e5030f75f2_b.jpg

I love her drawing! Don't you?! :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/4982228502_bb49792d78_b.jpg

We were able to chat with a few of the artists about the publicphotography idea as well, so a short but productive day for us!

Matt K.

09-12-2010, 04:08 PM

Nice going, there, Marko and JAS. I enjoyed our walk, and had a chat here and there with the odd bystander. My contributions are a little bit different, first - to follow JAS's line - the artists ... here are two portraits of sorts:

Portrait of the Artist as a young Woman

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4984002104_494d962ecc_z.jpg

Portrait of the Artist as a young Man

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4984003192_dd92d90f8c_z.jpg

Our walk would not have been complete without the acknowledgment of

Umbrella No. 8

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4983409115_67f5caa45b_z.jpg

and The Pink Settee

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4983407899_8cfa35b7ec_z.jpg

Being in this 'artsy' part of town we also stumbled upon a couple of close bikes. Here they are:

Said one bike to the other: Let's hang out!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/4983404453_6f67ff4009_z.jpg

And finally we ended up in a park commemorating the fallen soldiers of the first world war, the one to end all wars. There is a lantern burning there, as a memorial. Notice how the flame is caged - apparently there is no freedom.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4983401831_0f65da5b51_z.jpg

mbrager

09-12-2010, 06:47 PM

I had a great time with Matt and JAS. The on and off rain kept people indoors, but the student artists were out doing chalk drawings. My photos:
Busy Girl with Dogs
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/4981822712_491d9b5207_z.jpg
Tools
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/4981828216_701988b43a_z.jpg
Black and White
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/4981228311_285a5a4f52_z.jpg
Girl and Fountain
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/4981235731_0910758574_z.jpg
Central Park Model
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/4981240003_d2ccb39901_z.jpg
After Rain
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4981848528_03a329a71a_b.jpg