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AcadieLibre
07-14-2008, 12:22 PM
As I posted in one of my other threads not big on Macro photography but I was bored the other day and had some time to kill, so I was at a park catching some sun and saw a Dragonfly whiz by so I thought I would give it another whirl.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2667540131_bd2e20cda0.jpg
Travis
07-14-2008, 01:18 PM
especially with all the rain we've had this year the dragon flies are a sight for sore eyes..... they are busy busy in muskoka eating up the more than bountiful mosquito crop...
nice capture.... i'm a curious as to the high aperture.... just feeling like a rebel?
kiley9806
07-14-2008, 03:12 PM
great sharpness & i love that crazy little viney thing clinging to the leaves in the upper corner!
it seems like the color or something is a tad off - the brightness is funky to me (maybe its just my pc) im not sure what it is, over-exposed or something? maybe its the high aperture travis mentioned? my inexperience does not help me explain... :confused:
but thats a fabulous capture - especially if macro is 'not your thing'...
Nikki2291
07-14-2008, 05:17 PM
That is a wonderful capture. I think that someone probably mentioned it, but I think that color (like the leaves) is to bright, could be me though. I'm inexperienced so...:twocents:
AcadieLibre
07-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Part of why I hate looking or posting photos online, seems like each person see something that doesn't show on any of my screens. You all could be right, I calibrated my monitor, I was matching my ICC profiles for printing but seems when I post there are issues. So I bought a calibrator and now it has been calibrated seems to be the same issue. A gallery I have been recently involved with sees what I do and I was there last week again and I see what I do and they see the same but they also run Macs. And I have not had much comments on photos from others I have been dealing with also, not done a survey so not sure what they are viewing on or if they are calibrated.
Hmmmmm, not sure what to say, it could just be my setup is showing the photos differently than most others here, all my Macs in my house show me the exact same image and I have two screens at my desk. I am starting to wonder if it is how PC's are showing the images. I am going to have a look, I have a PC laptop that is never used, so I will load some photos to it and have a look once I get all the crap off it and fire it up. I am printing out photos like mad as of late and no colour issues or softness ones, so I may decide against posting many more photos online until I can figure out what is going on. I know my prints are not an issue, so I need to see what is going on, starting to drive me around the bend.
Travis
07-14-2008, 10:39 PM
Part of why I hate looking or posting photos online, seems like each person see something that doesn't show on any of my screens. You all could be right, I calibrated my monitor, I was matching my ICC profiles for printing but seems when I post there are issues. So I bought a calibrator and now it has been calibrated seems to be the same issue. A gallery I have been recently involved with sees what I do and I was there last week again and I see what I do and they see the same but they also run Macs. And I have not had much comments on photos from others I have been dealing with also, not done a survey so not sure what they are viewing on or if they are calibrated.
Hmmmmm, not sure what to say, it could just be my setup is showing the photos differently than most others here, all my Macs in my house show me the exact same image and I have two screens at my desk. I am starting to wonder if it is how PC's are showing the images. I am going to have a look, I have a PC laptop that is never used, so I will load some photos to it and have a look once I get all the crap off it and fire it up. I am printing out photos like mad as of late and no colour issues or softness ones, so I may decide against posting many more photos online until I can figure out what is going on. I know my prints are not an issue, so I need to see what is going on, starting to drive me around the bend.
lol... i think that might be a viewer perception issue as opposed to a colour space issue.... you do convert the final product to srgb in the end right?
FYIW - I don't see any colour issue but I also wear sunglasses at night:):) ... I was curious about the dragonfly not being taken in the classic shallow dof approach
Marko
07-14-2008, 11:44 PM
I quite like this shot and I actually like that the image has some depth of field. I like the colours as well.
For me the only small adjustment I might make (and this is pretty picky I agree) is burning in that bright wormy lookin' thing at the top right. :eek:
tirediron
07-14-2008, 11:44 PM
What colour-space are you working and saving your images in?
AcadieLibre
07-17-2008, 05:00 AM
Adobe RBG. Thanks for the comments, but I had a look on a PC and my colours do appear brighter on the 3 PC's I tried them on. I found mac screens more matted than others. I find I just prefer prints, because how many people calibrate their monitors? And screen type and many other things effect what is viewed on a computer monitor. I just recently printed some prints at home and they very in size depending on the crop largest was a 13" x 22" (it is that size because the crop and what the final image I wanted) and wow, god I love looking at printed photos. I just think computers are fine to work on images but to view them I am finding they leave a lot to be desired.
Travis
07-17-2008, 06:58 AM
Adobe RBG. Thanks for the comments, but I had a look on a PC and my colours do appear brighter on the 3 PC's I tried them on. I found mac screens more matted than others. I find I just prefer prints, because how many people calibrate their monitors? And screen type and many other things effect what is viewed on a computer monitor. I just recently printed some prints at home and they very in size depending on the crop largest was a 13" x 22" (it is that size because the crop and what the final image I wanted) and wow, god I love looking at printed photos. I just think computers are fine to work on images but to view them I am finding they leave a lot to be desired.
I think that may be the problem. Most viewers do not recognize adobe rgb. When your are finished processing you should try saving to SRGB for universal consistancy.
AcadieLibre
07-17-2008, 11:02 AM
As I said why I hate posting online. I did a lot of reading and research before going to Adobe RGB 1998, it is just a superior colour space.
"Note how Adobe RGB 1998 extends into richer cyans and greens than does sRGB-- for all tonal levels."
When I decided to use Adobe RGB 1998 I researched it I think the advantages of Adobe RGB are apparent and my printer takes full advantage of Adobe RGB.It appears it is not for everyone so I will continue to have this issue I suppose but I am not ever going to use sRGB as I think it is an inferior colour space.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/sRGB-AdobeRGB1998.htm
Travis
07-17-2008, 12:01 PM
As I said why I hate posting online. I did a lot of reading and research before going to Adobe RGB 1998, it is just a superior colour space.
"Note how Adobe RGB 1998 extends into richer cyans and greens than does sRGB-- for all tonal levels."
When I decided to use Adobe RGB 1998 I researched it I think the advantages of Adobe RGB are apparent and my printer takes full advantage of Adobe RGB.It appears it is not for everyone so I will continue to have this issue I suppose but I am not ever going to use sRGB as I think it is an inferior colour space.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/sRGB-AdobeRGB1998.htm
Good link Acadie...
Tell me... Have you experimented by printing the same shot one saved in AdobeRGB and one saved SRGB? and was there a perceptible difference?
I am asking because I don't print at home and don't know...
One new thing I learned from that link is that shooting a wider colour gamut reduces bit depth resulting is posterization if you are not actual using the colours is the gamut.
AcadieLibre
07-18-2008, 12:42 AM
I find when I tried sRGB the colours seemed to flat to me. I like my colours to pop, not everyones taste I admit but works for me. Not that I like all my photos that way. The only photos I use sRGB on are my website photos but those are optimized for the web. Photos I post in forums are usually test photos and outside resizing not much I do to make them web friendly, most I post I never end up using but a few I have but after I have optimized them for the web.
tegan
07-28-2008, 08:53 PM
I agree with Travis. Adobe RGB produces excellent colours with impact sure, but when you post them the colours are often lacking in saturation or dynamic range because the transition to srgb by the web leaves a lot to be desired. I once took a photo posted on a forum and reformatted it to Adobe RGB. The colours were considerably better rendered.
Despite that, I did not see a colour or brightness problem with your dragon fly image and I have a CRT that matches commercial printing in brightness and colour.
Tegan
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