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casil403
03-30-2010, 12:48 PM
So I posted an earlier version of this shot in a different thread but was so unhappy with the result I just couldn't bring myself to keep it up.:headslap:
Messed around with it again in HDR, PSE7 (some attempts at layering and merging) then into LR for some Final PP.
Not sure if I like it still but it is much better than the first attempt.:shrug:
Feel free to throw your thoughts out on this one...,it's way more PP/editing than I ever do in post work and I've never done any kind of layering before so this is the first attempt at that also. I think the saturation is still too high and I've tried like mad to get rid of as much noise as possible without losing any more detail...noise is a huge pet peeve of mine in my photos. :wall-an:
So here ya have it.....

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4476080681_94d1cbaa18_o.jpg

jjeling
03-30-2010, 01:24 PM
Yeah there is quite a bit of noise there. Maybe a little too much sky for my liking. otherwise I think you did a good job.

Bambi
03-30-2010, 02:04 PM
I like the hay but the sky is noisy. I bet that others will have some good suggestions for improvement. You can try to select just the sky and remove some of the noise. I do second JJ's advice of cropping out some of the sky.

casil403
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Thanks...this pp stuff is hard....I'm not a huge fan of doing it but i do like the look of it sometimes. Personally I would rather read medical texts as this seems a bit too much like work...lol!
So here's an HDR I converted to black and white and again did some pp in PSE7 and LR.
Any more interesting?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4477434636_f9ea3859ac_o.jpg

casil403
03-30-2010, 07:44 PM
Lol...guess not...:shrug: :laughing:

kat
03-30-2010, 08:02 PM
If I recall..the first one you have up in original (non HDR) format which I liked!

Love the dramatic sky in the second one..goes great over the gorgeous mountains. I find that there may not be enough mid tones though. Much prefer the second one :)

Bambi
03-30-2010, 08:03 PM
tsk tsk Casil you are too impatient. I just got back home!

and yes it's interesting :) I like how all the lines lead to the mountains and sky.

Mad Aussie
03-30-2010, 10:17 PM
Hey Casil ... as an experiment ... if you would like ... email me the bracketed shots you used for the Haystack shot and I'll see what happens when I run it through an HDR merge and PP it a bit.

casil403
03-30-2010, 10:22 PM
You got it...PM me with an email.

Mad Aussie
03-30-2010, 11:16 PM
Ok ... here's my go with it. I could probably fart around a bit more and try different shots for the HDR but this one is ok I think?

I dropped out one of the bracketed shots you took Lisa ... the really dark one. I think that one was creating the noise issue. I could probably drop out another one as well and get a different look again.

This has been in PS of course and had some tweaks done. I could have sharpened it a bit more I think but it does give you a comparison at least. The clouds at least look natural now.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u104/Mad-Aussie/10%20photographyca/Jan-Jun/Casil-031_2_3_5.jpg

casil403
03-31-2010, 07:38 AM
Thanks MA...yours is vastly improved. I think it might have also been the PSE layers thing. I also put this version through Dynamic photo HDR as I haven't been impressed too much with the results I've been getting from Photomatrix these days....but it might be just me.
Anyhow thanks for having a go at it, it looks great! :)

Marko
03-31-2010, 09:44 AM
Yup Nice work MA. I like Casil's perspective where the hay looms large...but this PP is much cleaner.

Mad Aussie
03-31-2010, 05:24 PM
Yeh I wasn't concerned with the crop ... just wanted to see if a better result was possible from the shots given. This at least shows Casil she can improve yet on the PP front and also not to necessarily throw away the shots as her skills and software may improve in time.

ericmark
03-31-2010, 08:48 PM
Thank you both shows me I am not alone with cloud problems. I realise most of my problems are due to using Photoshop however I have also noted better results by missing some images out.

I was really caught out writing a report about the purple edge to clouds only to find when printed the purple was not there.

Anyway thank you it is refreshing to realise it's not just me.

Mad Aussie
03-31-2010, 08:57 PM
I have also noted better results by missing some images out.
Definitely! I very often make HDR's out of only 2 images. If one is too dark .... the sky never looks right for instance. Too light and there's no sharpness in that image which effects the HDR result also.

Anyone tried making a faux HDR from one image? I have. I've taken an image and made it darker and lighter and saved it so I had 3 separate versions. Photomatix sees the photos aren't actually a different stop but gives you the option of getting around that. It prompts you, quite easy.

jlabel
04-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Thats some interesting tone mapping you made here, I liked the scaly look of the clouds. and the composition is great