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Bambi
03-23-2010, 10:13 PM
Here for business but had a chance to do a little walk along the water tonight. I saw this giant fiddle and had to play :)

first the perspective shot (sorry for the noise,not sure what I did wrong here :shrug:)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2704/4458844222_6832258a48.jpg

moving closer:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4458190193_67ae970827.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4458190975_3d6f97c318.jpg

last view :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4458189169_17ec1a003b.jpg
casil403
03-23-2010, 10:34 PM
Liking the last 2 big time B... :)
Mad Aussie
03-24-2010, 02:10 AM
Cool set!

What's the EXif data on that fiurst one and maybe we can figure where that noise came from?
Was it HDR Merge? If so that can bring a lot of noise.
Iguanasan
03-24-2010, 11:12 AM
Really nice set. That's one heck of a fiddle.

Re: Noise. I'm thinking auto or aperture priority and it bumped up the ISO due to a cloudy day.
kat
03-24-2010, 11:28 AM
Neat! That is one huge fiddle. Sometimes I get the noise with cloudy day shots..too long of exposure but I don't know if that would be your case here. It may be the HDR program. Interested to find out.
Bambi
03-24-2010, 06:30 PM
thanks guys. This is the exif data:

Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/11.0
Focal Length: 55 mm
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: -2 EV
Flash: No Flash

does that explain? it's not hdr
Mad Aussie
03-24-2010, 06:39 PM
thanks guys. This is the exif data:

Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/11.0
Focal Length: 55 mm
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: -2 EV
Flash: No Flash

does that explain? it's not hdr
Nope. Not a clue in there at all!

What post processing did you do?
Bambi
03-24-2010, 06:48 PM
just my normal-straighten, crop, boost contrast, unsharp, etc...I took another look at the RAW and it's very noisy. I'm checking out some of the other shots so see if they are less so.
Mad Aussie
03-24-2010, 06:53 PM
My best guess here is that this is actually under-exposed a bit and that has caused 'colour noise'. If you look closely at the noise ... is it lots of multi coloured dots?

In Lightroom you can adjust the colour and luminence noise levels.

Sharpening this would have made it worse. This where learning to use layers would help you tremendously. Imagine this image layered on itself and you sharpen one of those layers and then only blend through the bits with no noise. In this case the sky would be less noisey.
Bambi
03-24-2010, 06:56 PM
My best guess here is that this is actually under-exposed a bit and that has caused 'colour noise'. If you look closely at the noise ... is it lots of multi coloured dots?

In Lightroom you can adjust the colour and luminence noise levels.

Sharpening this would have made it worse. This where learning to use layers would help you tremendously. Imagine this image layered on itself and you sharpen one of those layers and then only blend through the bits with no noise. In this case the sky would be less noisey.

okay that makes sense. so when can you do a tutorial on that? :D
Mad Aussie
03-24-2010, 07:01 PM
okay that makes sense. so when can you do a tutorial on that? :D
When can I do a tutorial on 'Selective Sharpening'?? Gee ... I dunno <cough blog cough cough blind cough blog resources cough cough>
Bambi
03-24-2010, 07:11 PM
When can I do a tutorial on 'Selective Sharpening'?? Gee ... I dunno <cough blog cough cough blind cough blog resources cough cough>
:laughing:
lol no I meant more on the whole masking thing. :o
Mad Aussie
03-24-2010, 07:15 PM
My Selective Sharpening tutorial shows you how to use layer masks within that.

If you follow that you'll soon see how you can use it to also adjust colour, curves etc in a selective manner.
kat
03-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Why the -2EV?
Iguanasan
03-25-2010, 11:07 PM
If you have 4 minutes watch the following tutorial on how to use layer masks in Gimp: YouTube - Akkana Peck Layer Mask Tutorial using GIMP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEGR_Qps9OQ)

Once you understand how layer masks work you can have all kinds of fun. Duplicate the image you are working with, then reduce one layer to black and white and keep the other layer as colour then use the layer mask for selective colouring. Saving the image as an XCF before exporting to JPG will let you go back and tweak it.

My "miniatures" were built like this. I sharpened one layer and then heavily blurred the other. I then painted the layer mask in such a way as to let some areas show through as being sharp while others remained blurry.
Mad Aussie
03-25-2010, 11:39 PM
Cool ... now go find one for PSP X3 ;)

Gimp works much the same as PS in that regard. I'm expecting PSP X3 will also but it uses different terminology I think?
Iguanasan
03-26-2010, 07:56 AM
X3 has some cool tools, check out the sample video, YouTube - PaintShop Photo Pro X3, New Features Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mNHBVTVXds)

Based on this video, it's very similar: YouTube - Custom Sharpness Layers - PaintShop Photo Pro X3 Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGk_y-jUik&feature=channel)
Bambi
03-26-2010, 08:10 AM
you guys are too good to me :):thankyou:
Mad Aussie
03-26-2010, 02:35 PM
You're special to us Bambi. Your name reminds us of our bachelor parties ;)

That's a good vid tutorial! X3 is slightly more complex than PS for this but shows what I mean.

He didn't mention it but I'm guessing if you make a mistake while using the mask and when using the black to rub out the layer you can choose white and rub it back in.