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[Bambi]

I keep trying to decide if this photo has any merit or not. I finally decided to post it and find out :shrug::)http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/4415993168_2807a57614_b.jpg

[Marko]

Hmmm - I see noise in the rocks and water here. I think this one has a greater potential with a bit more PP....IF you can get a handle on the noise. I also see a magenta cast in the water....actually - I think I'd let this one go...I'm seeing too much noise. :twocents:

Woops - I mean I see noise in the sand not so much in the water.

[Bambi]

yeah I see the magenta cast too ! Funny I didn't see on my home comp but it is there on my work comp. I didn't think it was noisy though- I thought it was the bubbles of the surf. Hmm, let me take another kick at it.

[Marko]

I'd LOVE to see what you can do with this bambi.

Thx - Marko

[Bambi]

I'd LOVE to see what you can do with this bambi.

Thx - Marko

LOL, likely nothing :P but I guess I'm not ready to give up. Maybe I should post it in the challenge section :)

[Mad Aussie]

Personally, I think you've taken much, much better photos with better compositions and exposure before. Also I don't find anything in the photo that actually holds my interest. Add to that the noise which will only get worse if you try to lighten this and I say move on or go back and re-take.

[Bambi]

Personally, I think you've taken much, much better photos with better compositions and exposure before. Also I don't find anything in the photo that actually holds my interest. Add to that the noise which will only get worse if you try to lighten this and I say move on or go back and re-take.

*sigh* okay. You are right. I like the idea of the photo better then the photo so I'll keep trying. It's not like there's a lack of surf around here.

thanks guys for your patience. (and directness :))

[Mad Aussie]

I was only telling you what you'd already told yourself ;)

[Bambi]

I was only telling you what you'd already told yourself ;)

oh god, MA is in my head!!! :eek: Or I'm in your head. :eek: now my brain hurts. :headslap:

but yes, I guess I put it here as I liked the idea but not so sure about the execution. And that's because it was flawed. I am curious though-what caused the pink cast? It was a bright sunny day at about 2:30 in the afternoon. I had a polarizing filter on and I've not seen that result before.

[casil403]

Okay I have a question....when and if you retake this shot...what would you do differently composition wise?
I know what I would do, but what would you do?;)

Also I have to ask did you run this thru Topaz adjust? It looks like it was run thought TA. :)

[Mad Aussie]

I think several things could cause this cast.
It may just be as simple as light refraction due to the angle the suns light was hitting your front element.
It may be the in camera settings you have set in your menu if you shot in jpg.
It could be, as Casil suggests, a product of post processing via Topaz or even HDR Merge.
Your lens might have been up late last night on a bender and is feeling a bit bloodshot.
The lizards might have done it.
Maybe there is no cast and we are just playing with you.

[Bambi]

I think several things could cause this cast.
It may just be as simple as light refraction due to the angle the suns light was hitting your front element.
It may be the in camera settings you have set in your menu if you shot in jpg.
It could be, as Casil suggests, a product of post processing via Topaz or even HDR Merge.
Your lens might have been up late last night on a bender and is feeling a bit bloodshot.
The lizards might have done it.
Maybe there is no cast and we are just playing with you.

:wall-an: I knew it!! You are all playing with me.
Damn Lizard people. :yell:

Yes I did run it through. I've downloader TA 4 but am not sure that it's an improvement. Let me check the original.
This is the photo I took. I did no PP, just saved as JPG:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4421610766_b2cffe4c1a_b.jpg

As for what I would do differently Casil- YIKES. Now I'm feeling some performance anxiety. So be gentle-k? :o I would take more time to really set up the shot and get lower. I would move to get some of the lower rocks in. To be honest it was a picture I took without much thinking- other then 'ooh surf- cool' . Now what would you do? :confused:

[casil403]

I think the TA might have been a factor in both the issues MA speaks about here....well...except for the lizard people. ;)

I think your next comp shot instincts are bang on. Knowing me as you have well seen from some of Greg's photos, I would end up wet and sandy...thank Gawd I have wet weather pants and wear them with me every single time I go out shooting so I can get dirty without ruining anything. I would try to make the rocks more of a foreground interest and focus on widening the shot to include some horizon if possible, or at least more surf and rock....but that's me and what works for me might not work for anybody else. What I would do here is study this photo a bit, think about the scene and then try a re-shoot knowing what you saw and remember...picture it all in your head and then just do it. Take the photo, print it and stuff it in your pocket if you have to so you have something to go by.
There my ramble has ended. Hope it made a bit of sense. :)

[Mad Aussie]

I feel sorry for you Bambi :(

Can't believe you think that's surf :sad:

[JAS_Photo]

Sometimes you can get a color cast just from the format you Export it in in Adobe Elements. For web usage you want the file in a sRGB format and just because your camera is set for sRGB does not mean you are exporting sRGB. If you use the "export for web" option in Elements your file will automatically be converted. If not, you need to select image>mode> convert to sRGB. If almost all you photograph is used just on the web sRGB is fine. If you seriously want to start editing and printing I would use Adobe RGB. Now, if I am printed something I use the Adobe RGB and for what I upload I convert to the sRGB and do not get color shifts that way.

I am not going to tell you to not use the Active D lighting but what it does is try to resolve lighting problems caused by a high dynamic range in camera. Basically, you already do HDR when you have a high dynamic range so I would say it is not necessary.

Topaz can cause noise and color shifts but if your photo looked good on your computer and shifted when uploaded to the web it is probably a color profile issue. I am no expert but this what I have found from my experience. :)

[Bambi]

thanks everyone, this is so helpful. I will have to continue to post my mistakes so I can learn from them :)

MA, okay, so perhaps 'surf' was not the right term. But now you're getting picky!!! :yell::D

[Mad Aussie]

Surf ...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3877030928_cae2d954ba_o.jpg


Foam!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4421610766_b2cffe4c1a_b.jpg


Surf ... look carefully now Bambi ...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2617/3876241397_8e46862fc7_o.jpg


and ... Foam!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4421610766_b2cffe4c1a_b.jpg

Can you see the difference now? ;)

[Bambi]

Surf ...


Surf ... look carefully now Bambi ...


and ... Foam!



Can you see the difference now? ;)

hmm I don't know. Can you post some more pictures but have the surfers in swimsuits and not wetsuits? More study may be required. I may even required special ed. ;)

[Mad Aussie]

This was winter ... the water gets way down to about 20 degrees you know!! :)

[Bambi]

This was winter ... the water gets way down to about 20 degrees you know!! :)

I guess I'll need summer school.......:D

[Fortytwo]

I'll just tell you what I'd might try if it where my photo:

There is too much going on. I like clean photo's, so I'll start removing disstractions.
First, I'd crop it. The more is gone, the better. Just focus on the shapes or the things you like about the scene. Get rid of the rest, it isn't helping. I'd suggest focussing on the 'foam' and the shapes it has. Forget about the stone, it isn't interesting.
Second, not only is there a color cast, the color isn't very attractive in the first place. If you don't need the color, how about switching to B/W. This makes for a cleaner looking picture, and as a bonus let's you get away with just a little bit more noise without it bothering you.
And third, I'd just twiddle with contrast/brightness/clarity/levels to make sure the image isn't flat and dull.

That's what I'd try before tossing it away. :)

[Bambi]

Thanks 42, I'll try that. :thankyou: