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Iguanasan
11-21-2009, 06:35 PM
Another try at my old nemesis. I think I'm getting closer...comments?

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AcadieLibre
11-21-2009, 08:45 PM
You almost have it, the car is just too distracting for me and if you could maybe shot from the left a bit more I think you would have it. Almost though, even if the car was gone it might even work at that angle.

tirediron
11-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Agree with AL on the car/background issue. There's also the matter of the blue paint on the trunk and on the lower railing. IMO, to really 'get' a shot like is difficult. You need to have the perfect background and perfect focus. I'm not a huge fan of unfocused foregrounds; I'd like to see a sharp foreground merging to a soft background. I seem to recall some nice chunks of fence near (I think) Cambridge Battery in Point Pleasant Park that might work.

scorpio_e
11-24-2009, 07:05 PM
I do like the tension in the image. I would try to blur the car:)

Iguanasan
11-24-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks, everyone. I'll have to try again! :D

Bambi
11-24-2009, 10:34 PM
this is definitely a photo worthy subject and not an easy one at that! have you tried shooting it from a low angle?

Iguanasan
11-24-2009, 10:37 PM
I've been up/down, left, right, forward and back :wall-an:

I'm sure the right angle exists but it's been elusive. :D

Bambi
11-24-2009, 10:44 PM
I've been up/down, left, right, forward and back :wall-an:

I'm sure the right angle exists but it's been elusive. :D

hmm you may have to sit on the fence :eek: better wear a cup! :evil2:

Fortytwo
11-25-2009, 03:05 AM
Have you tried the old mantra: if your pictures aren't good enough, you are not close enough ... ;)

AcadieLibre
11-25-2009, 03:14 AM
Well just keep trying, the problem is when you get the perfect shot of it, no more nemesis. Now are sure thats what you Iggy? I probably would think that answer would be of course yes you dolt lol...... Maybe it is just waiting for you to find a new one before you beat this one just to keep you challenged?

Iguanasan
11-25-2009, 09:05 AM
Well, I think if I can crack this nut then it'll be another tool in my camera bag. The tougher the subject the more you learn. So, yes! I will be very happy to capture this tree/fence combo in an interesting way.

Marko
11-25-2009, 10:53 AM
I forget what the other shot looks like.....can you throw a link in here Iggy.
I'm not crazy about this version though I realize this is a tough shot.....(I may have an idea if I see the other tries)

good on you for wanting to tackle this beast:highfive:

Iguanasan
11-25-2009, 02:06 PM
Here's the first attempt: http://www.photography.ca/Forums/f2/embraced-nature-3376.html This is the only other one I've posted.

I think I can confidently say that this one is better but I still have some work to do :D

Marko
11-25-2009, 03:25 PM
What about a straight on shot?

casil403
11-25-2009, 04:00 PM
It looks like there's a similar thing going on on another tree behind it from the first shot.
What about a wider angle?

Try from the other side of the fence too maybe?
If it were me i'd have a first go at it at every angle possible and see what shot works best. Then I'd try it with different times of the day for lighting...not like it's going anywhere anytime soon...lol!
good luck...here's your project! :highfive:

casil403
11-25-2009, 04:02 PM
I'd also autobracket 2 shots of it and pop it into and HDR to see what else happens...i realize your not a big fan but you never know what you:) might come up with and you can do HDR so it's not over the top.

Fortytwo
11-25-2009, 04:11 PM
Now, give some thoughts to why you think this subject would make a good picture. What is it you like about it? Now my guess it's the unusual way that tree grows that caught your eye in the first place.

So how to make an interesting picture of it. First of all, it needs to be noticed. You need to make sure people notice it too when they see the picture. You've succeeded in that pretty good so far. :)
But that's not enough. A good and clean registration will make people look once and think "nice", and then move on. That, you don't want. You want people to have a second look at it. Or more...

So you have to challenge them. Make them think about the subject. Wonder why it is the way it is. Make it interesting...

But how to make it more interesting? Removing distractions is always a good way to center the eye on the subject. Distractions can be messy stuff in the background, but can be other things as well. In this case, think color. It aren't the colors that are interesting, it's the lines the tree makes. So, why not remove the color? Turning it B/W could make for nicer shots... :)

Another thing is to take the picture at an unusual angle. If people don't immediately recognize the object, but it intrigues them, they look twice. So, get on your knees, climb up the tree, anything. But show the tree without making it obvious that you're showing a tree. It's already unusual, so make it more unusual. Get creative with it!

Like I said, I'm sure you can make a really good picture out of this. This is the way we learn...



Crap, this here all does sound a bit "new age". It's all true though. And I'm not on drugs... at least for now...

Marko
11-25-2009, 04:42 PM
I'm just throwing this out there but what about if you had a large piece of fabric behind a portion of the tree and fence. That might eliminate all the background distractions and make it look like a 'studio' shot. Maybe use a telephoto lens and capture a smaller potion of the image so the fabric doesn't have to be too large. just a thought.

Iguanasan
11-25-2009, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the ideas. I'm just waiting for the weather to cooperate now.

ruleofthirds
11-26-2009, 12:36 PM
Now, give some thoughts to why you think this subject would make a good picture. What is it you like about it? Now my guess it's the unusual way that tree grows that caught your eye in the first place.

So how to make an interesting picture of it. First of all, it needs to be noticed. You need to make sure people notice it too when they see the picture. You've succeeded in that pretty good so far. :)
But that's not enough. A good and clean registration will make people look once and think "nice", and then move on. That, you don't want. You want people to have a second look at it. Or more...

So you have to challenge them. Make them think about the subject. Wonder why it is the way it is. Make it interesting...

But how to make it more interesting? Removing distractions is always a good way to center the eye on the subject. Distractions can be messy stuff in the background, but can be other things as well. In this case, think color. It aren't the colors that are interesting, it's the lines the tree makes. So, why not remove the color? Turning it B/W could make for nicer shots... :)

Another thing is to take the picture at an unusual angle. If people don't immediately recognize the object, but it intrigues them, they look twice. So, get on your knees, climb up the tree, anything. But show the tree without making it obvious that you're showing a tree. It's already unusual, so make it more unusual. Get creative with it!

Like I said, I'm sure you can make a really good picture out of this. This is the way we learn...

Crap, this here all does sound a bit "new age". It's all true though. And I'm not on drugs... at least for now...

100% agree! I see your first attempt, a much tighter shot and i think this is closer to the answer. The subject is the fence vs. tree.

As soon as that Nova Scotia weather clears up send us another!

Bambi
11-26-2009, 02:09 PM
Thanks for the ideas. I'm just waiting for the weather to cooperate now.

I don't know, it might look neat in the fog!

Iguanasan
11-26-2009, 02:14 PM
I don't know, it might look neat in the fog!

Nah, I stopped down there this morning. When the tree is wet you lose a lot of detail in the bark. :(

Bambi
11-26-2009, 02:56 PM
Nah, I stopped down there this morning. When the tree is wet you lose a lot of detail in the bark. :(

oh well. :footinmou