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jjeling
03-20-2009, 09:14 PM
http://www.invernessclub.com/
Ok. Well I just had a meeting with my old boss from the golf club and I am hired back as a Starter. Pay isn't great but there are some definite perks. Free food and golf, and a $1500 bonus check at the end of the year. He also asked me to be the 'head' photographer for their tournaments this year. Instead of paying me as a photographer, I will just stay on the clock and take pictures instead of working. I also will need to get a quality lens as well.
http://cgi.ebay.com/PENTAX-smc-F-300mm-f-4-5-ED-IF-Lens-F_W0QQitemZ320350944332QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_L enses?hash=item320350944332&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A2|294%3A50
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PENTAX-smc-DA-200mm-F2-8-STAR-LENS-for-K20D-K200D_W0QQitemZ230329763327QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCame ra_Lenses?hash=item230329763327&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A0|293%3A3|294%3A50
Its for golf, so I think those will make the ladies look their best.
Although I could probably charge WAY more as a photographer, he mentioned that if things work out, he could probably get me into the LPGA Jaime Farr Kroger Classic as well. As much as I want to ask for separate pay as a photographer, I do not want to risk the potential opportunity of the situation. I accepted already, but is there anything I should be aware of or consider?
tomorrowstreasures
03-20-2009, 09:25 PM
JJ - congratulations!!!! :highfive:I am sooooooo happy for you! :goodvibes I think that you should probably think in terms of a contract so that there is no bad blood...think of a prenup... just in place to protect and serve. :D
Mad Aussie
03-21-2009, 12:59 AM
I think you did the right thing JJ. And congrats on the work.
I think you shouldn't look at the loss of dollars you could make if you charged as a photog but rather look at the dollars you'll make annually instead.
In this global crisis I think it's just great you have a job again and wouldn't be jeopardizing that. The experience of the golf shoots will be helpful to your photography skills base.
Mad Aussie
03-21-2009, 01:03 AM
Just looking at the lenses you are choosing. I take it you prefer Prime lenses?
Not that I don't like them but I do wonder whether a single decent zoom lens might do so much more for you in this case and help reduce the lens changes.
Marko
03-21-2009, 01:44 AM
That's great news indeed JJ and congrats!:party: Sounds like an absolutely wicked-good gig that has the potential for potential good things.
I think MA's got it right here; a zoom is likely the most prudent choice. That said and I haven't read any of the reviews on those 2 lenses...but if I had to choose between only those 2..I'd want it to get closer-up so I'd choose the 300 but not as a 'regular' lens on the camera.
Congrats JJ!
I agree with MA regarding zoom rather than prime, because you never know where you are going to end up. If you end up closer than you expect, like trying to shoot putting if you get on player on the far side of the green and one on the closest to you will have to move.
Of course the other big thing with events is work flow and processing. Make sure you get that included in your "On the Clock time" as it can be a considerable amount of time.
Mad Aussie
03-21-2009, 02:08 AM
Of course the other big thing with events is work flow and processing. Make sure you get that included in your "On the Clock time" as it can be a considerable amount of time.
That's a VERY good point!!
casil403
03-21-2009, 08:37 AM
I agree with everyone else as well JJ...they have some good points for consideration.
Congrats on the job, the perks and the potential future benefits from acceptance. :highfive:
I'm going to be working/cooking at a golf club this summer as well and looking forward to it!
jjeling
03-21-2009, 04:25 PM
Here is my thoughts behind the lenses. I have two Pentax camera's so colors should match up pretty well. I figured I would go out with both camera's, one prime lens, and then an adjustable zoom lens on the other. Prime lenses get much better quality images than zoom lenses at that range so I want to maximize the potential of the camera(K10) and the lens. Then, on the K110 Ill keep a shorter 80-200 in case I find myself in a different situation. It might be a little much to carry, but I would rather be prepared instead of scrambling to change lenses. Have my "Go To" lens(prime) then if something comes up, switch to the other camera with a shorter lens.
Mad Aussie
03-21-2009, 08:07 PM
Yep ok ... having the two cameras makes your decision make much more sense now.
jjeling
03-21-2009, 08:20 PM
:highfive: The other problem is my computer. It is really starting to slooooooowwwwwwww down. But yes, having a second backup camera on hand is going to make a HUGE difference I think. It will probably give me the upper hand and allow me to be pretty flexible as well.
:highfive: The other problem is my computer. It is really starting to slooooooowwwwwwww down. But yes, having a second backup camera on hand is going to make a HUGE difference I think. It will probably give me the upper hand and allow me to be pretty flexible as well.
I notice from the presets link in one of your threads that you use Lightroom. I love lightroom for flagging and rejecting photos. Actually I use Lightroom for nearly all my pp. My Lightroom has slowed quite a lot. I wonder if having a separate catalogue for events will speed things up? It is something I am going to try some time.
jjeling
03-21-2009, 10:27 PM
Not sure why you think I might be using lightroom. I have Photoshop CS2 but no lightroom. Would love to try it out sometime though.
Not sure why you think I might be using lightroom. I have Photoshop CS2 but no lightroom. Would love to try it out sometime though.
You are correct you don't use Lightroom.:D
My mistake, it was Raiven's post.
You can always download a fully functional 30day demo. Non destructive editing is fantastic and saves on disk space.
jjeling
03-21-2009, 10:50 PM
30 day demos are nice. But thats how they get you sucked in. You like something so much, you have to buy it. Kind of like fishing. Have to be smarter than the rest not to eat the bait. Im sure it is good software. I am content with PS for now. Have other things my money needs to be geared towards now anyways.
AcadieLibre
03-22-2009, 01:04 AM
Congrats and WTG. Just something I have not heard you mention but it may not matter to you but you realize you will not own any of the images and they will own the copyright to those images since they are paying you to take them, would be like working for a newspaper as a staff photographer, unless your contract stipulates something different they own the rights to those photos. Not sure if it matters but just something you might want consider asking for equal copyright on the images so you can use them to further your career.
jjeling
03-22-2009, 01:15 AM
I have thought of that AL. Im glad you gave me a seond affirmation of it as well. I was kind of hoping you would chime in on this. It seems like that would be standard practice but maybe its not. I haven't really taken any pictures for them yet, but will mention it at the right opportunity. This is a you scratch my back, Ill scratch yours kind of deal. Hopefully I dont get burned, but these are pretty good guys from the time Ive had to learn them. It will probably just get used for their marketing and what not. Can't really see why they would argue against me using them if I needed to. Could be wrong about that though. Not that I would care. Im like abstract and art photography myself, but this would be a fun way to pay the bills, and meet attractive, single, and loaded female golfers...haha
AcadieLibre
03-22-2009, 10:08 AM
If they are half decent if they plan to use mostly in house just ask in an email and that way you have something that protects you should they ever change their mind. You actually would have to ask the owner or a partner of whom ever owns it or someone who is in the position to legally give you that authority, someone like a manager usually doesn't. If you know the owner/s just send an email and be very polite and just ask if you can use them, don't go into any explanation, just ask if you are allowed to use them. And its better if you get it in an email or writing. Verbal permission is pretty useless. I imagine they should say yes, but do a shoot or two first then ask. Get into their good graces first. Seems like they are a decent lot, so I don't imagine them saying no, but don't be surprised if they say no, I doubt they will but you never know.
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