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asnow
10-31-2017, 12:01 PM
I am interested in others opinion with Adobe's direction with the new Lightroom CC.
It is my understanding that all photos in the library are stored on the web and you do not have the option of storing them locally. This may work if you have all jpeg's but what about if you shoot in raw with large megapixel cameras that have huge raw files.
1. What do you do if your photo library is terabytes of data.
2. What happens if you do not have a high bandwidth and high limit internet link.
3. What if you do a large shoot such as maybe 30GB or more of photos. My goodness, how long is it going to take to load those into the Lightroom library. Also it would appear to me that editing the photos would be slow if you have to download every picture into the program memory to edit it.
4. Apparently there is a new supposedly simplified (Dumbed down) interface. How good is this. Look at what Apple did to Final Cut Pro. They screwed the professional video people.
5. Of course they will charging for cloud storage (and you have no choice but to use Adobe's cloud) which means $$$$. No wonder they chose to go this route. Huge profits since they decided to go with the subscription model is not enough.

I know that for now they still have the Lightroom Classic CC (which is what I upgraded to) but that requires Adobe to maintain two different versions. How long will they be willing to to do that. Remember a few years ago they promised that you will always be able to buy a stand alone version and that has now gone by the wayside.

It looks like Adobe is going the route of Apple. The hell with the Professionals and simply only worry about the consumer market.

Just my 2 cents worth. Maybe its time to start looking at switching to one of Adobe's competitors of which there are now several options...such as Capture One Pro

mbrager
11-01-2017, 02:38 PM
I don't believe Adobe will abandon professionals at all. Much of their Photoshop and Lightroom history has been specifically aimed at professionals, and they have actually tightened the relationship between PS and LR, even renaming LR to Photoshop Lightroom Classic. The new LR is aimed at photographers more concerned with sharing than composition and editing. LR Classic remains desktop centered with local storage options. Although it is feasible apparently to use the new LR with raw files, obviously as you point out, huge (and expensive) amounts of cloud storage and fast upload speeds are necessary to make this viable. Professional photographers would therefore prefer local storage and use PS-LR Classic, with more features. I don't see Adobe replacing the model any time soon, unless there are technological changes to bandwidth in the future.

asnow
11-02-2017, 01:07 PM
I don't believe Adobe will abandon professionals at all. Much of their Photoshop and Lightroom history has been specifically aimed at professionals, and they have actually tightened the relationship between PS and LR, even renaming LR to Photoshop Lightroom Classic. The new LR is aimed at photographers more concerned with sharing than composition and editing. LR Classic remains desktop centered with local storage options. Although it is feasible apparently to use the new LR with raw files, obviously as you point out, huge (and expensive) amounts of cloud storage and fast upload speeds are necessary to make this viable. Professional photographers would therefore prefer local storage and use PS-LR Classic, with more features. I don't see Adobe replacing the model any time soon, unless there are technological changes to bandwidth in the future.

I hope you are right.

Marko
11-03-2017, 08:52 AM
I'm using lightroom CC - all my stuff is stored locally.

Zero intention on my part to work differently.

asnow
11-03-2017, 10:37 AM
Marko, are you sure that you are using the new Lightroom CC that came out in the last couple of weeks with the new interface and not the new Classic version. If so then I guess I am wrong, you can store pictures locally. If that is the case then no problem.

Marko
11-03-2017, 01:18 PM
I'm using the Adobe Lightroom CC 2015 version...
Nobody seems to be forcing me to upgrade though.
if indeed the upgrade forces you to keep your files in the cloud....not sure i'd be happy

asnow
11-03-2017, 05:22 PM
That explains it. You are using the older version. If you upgrade to the just released versions make sure you choose the Lightroom CC Classic. If you choose the Lightroom CC you get a cloud version where your files are stored on the Adobe cloud and there is a completely new user interface (as far as I understand). I don't know this new cloud version from experience, just from what I read. I upgraded to the new Classic version and it is just like the old one. Perhaps somebody who has upgraded to the new cloud version can clarify this.