My first two prints for my exhibit

[theantiquetiger]

12x18 from Adoramapix

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r198/theantiquetiger/Snapbucket/12DCBD08.jpg

[Barefoot]

What did you have these printed on, AT? I was also wondering if you got ICC profiles from them to soft prof in Lightroom before sending them off to the labs. Inquiring minds want to know. :D

[theantiquetiger]

What did you have these printed on, AT? I was also wondering if you got ICC profiles from them to soft prof in Lightroom before sending them off to the labs. Inquiring minds want to know. :D


Not quite sure what you are talking about, but I did check "color correction" when I uploaded them to print. They are a matte finish.

This is a poor iPhone picture, the prints are amazing!!!

[Barefoot]

...but I did check "color correction" when I uploaded them to print.

O.K., I got'cha. Same difference almost. Basically, in house color correction means they did the soft proofing for you. Likely as not, most of their work is done that way. It would't surprise if their techs have printed enough to be able to look at a file and tell if there are any out of gamut colors or any other possible problems and just leave it the heck alone if there isn't. Glad you're happy with them. That's all that counts. :thumbup:

Did they specify a color space before the upload?

[theantiquetiger]

Did they specify a color space before the upload?

Not sure what you are talking about again. Are you talking about the white boarder? I select that because I don't want the matte cutting into the image (especially the runner, with the lamp so high).

[Barefoot]

Are you talking about the white boarder? I select that because I don't want the matte cutting into the image (especially the runner, with the lamp so high).

You did the right thing there, I think. Sometimes you'll loose a little around the edges when you use a lab. If they don't tell you that up front, it can be a bummer. When I ask about color space I was talking about something else, though.

Marko did a podcast on it, and it was one of the best you'll find out there. (http://www.photography.ca/blog/2013/02/12/color-spaces-monitor-settings/)

[JAS_Photo]

Life was simple. You would take a picture and download it. Possibly do a little editing. Then you decided to print. You learned about colour profiles and colour spaces. All innocence is suddenly lost and you have discovered the many pitfalls of the printed photograph. :)
Color Space and Color Profiles | dpBestflow (http://dpbestflow.org/color/color-space-and-color-profiles)

[Barefoot]

Life was simple. You would take a picture and download it. Possibly do a little editing. Then you decided to print. You learned about colour profiles and colour spaces. All innocence is suddenly lost and you have discovered the many pitfalls of the printed photograph. :)
Color Space and Color Profiles | dpBestflow (http://dpbestflow.org/color/color-space-and-color-profiles)

Just curios JAS, which of the two spaces are you shooting in? The Adobe RGB or sRGB?

[JAS_Photo]

Adobe RGB. But I also use sRGB because to me the colours look better on the web without much adjustment. A little thing i learned recently when editing in Lightroom -if you scroll down to camera calibrations or in Bridge click on the little camera on the top and you will see your camera's particular profiles that you can use when shooting in jpegs. If you shoot raw, in ADOBE Standard, when you open your photo in Bridge or LR, you will probably find it rather dull and lacklustre compared to what you saw on the back of your camera. If you choose one of the profiles (and it depends on what camera you use what choices you see such as camera neutral, camera vivid or camera portrait which are Nikon choices.) You will get an instant boost. It is easier to edit a photo that already looks better so this little step just gives you a nicer starting place. Sorry a bit off topic. :shrug:

[Barefoot]

Adobe RGB. But I also use sRGB because to me the colours look better on the web without much adjustment.

Yeah, me too. I'm shooting RAW+ JPEG Fine (just because I can, by God). As far as the RAW file goes it matters not what you choose, but I ask myself why I would purposely want to strip away any available colors from the JPEG. It may be counter-productive 'cause I shoot with the Standard Pic Control. Capture NX2 lets me select another (Vivid,Portrait, Landscape, etc.) if Standard isn't cutting it. Man, it can get confusing. You here so many different things from so many different people.

I was asking AT about this 'cause I feel like the more the lab ask of the author, the more they have his best interest in mind. Maybe another misconception on my part, but...:shrug:

Help, Marko. I'm drowning.

[Barefoot]

I'm glad you started this thread, AT. Printing, and related items, is seldom discussed around here and that a shame 'cause I really need to get my poop together. On the one hand, I say that I hate to throw away available color. But, after editing the RAW file in NX2, what's the first thing I do? I open the TIFF file in Elements and get the “Elements can't handle a 16bit file. Do you want to convert to 8bit?” dialogue box. Uh...umm, I guess so. Damnit, regardless of the color space, I just threw away a bunch of color.

Looks like I need to start using Lightroom for everything instead of just firing it up for a print job. I could get used to it eventually, I guess. OnOne's Perfect Photo Suite plays with Lightroom real well and I can do layers there If I need them and of all the available software out there it absolutely does the best job of layer masks.

[theantiquetiger]

But most of these online places only take jpeg, so a 16 bit TIFF is no good if you got to convert after anyways.

***Edit***

Adoramapix takes JPEG and 8-bit TIFF

[Marko]

First off, The prints look good AT!


Yeah, me too. I'm shooting RAW+ JPEG Fine (just because I can, by God). As far as the RAW file goes it matters not what you choose, but I ask myself why I would purposely want to strip away any available colors from the JPEG. It may be counter-productive 'cause I shoot with the Standard Pic Control. Capture NX2 lets me select another (Vivid,Portrait, Landscape, etc.) if Standard isn't cutting it. Man, it can get confusing. You here so many different things from so many different people.

I was asking AT about this 'cause I feel like the more the lab ask of the author, the more they have his best interest in mind. Maybe another misconception on my part, but...:shrug:

Help, Marko. I'm drowning.

Not sure exactly what you are asking BF - I have been doing most of the printing myself for the past few years since I like thick kick butt paper...and I live in Canada. I mention Canada because if I lived in the USA, the shipping to get killer prints on killer paper is affordable. (If anyone knows a place in Canada - please let me know).

Anyway, because I print for myself AND I have an RGB monitor, I shoot in RAW in adobe RGB on standard/normal. The stuff always looks great on my monitor and when I print it (if the exposure and PP is up to snuff).
When I post to the web, I'll often convert to SRGB OR add some contrast.

Now the odd time I do have something to send to a lab - I call them and ask them how they want the file, what colour space it should be in etc.

Hope that may help - feel free to prompt me for additional info. if you need any in this thread or another one.

[theantiquetiger]

Framed and ready to hang at the show

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r198/theantiquetiger/Snapbucket/E9DE5C7B.jpg

[Barefoot]

Good job, AT. Now get busy on the rest of'em. :highfive: